X-ray Spectrometry Proves Thermite Present in WTC Debris

[Jim34]

Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
through steel) found in the WTC debris.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU


Look into it further:

Watch 9/11 Mysteries:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536

Visit Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:
http://www.ae911truth.org/

[Al Dykes]

In article <***@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
>samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
>for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>

Where did his samples come from?

When did he get them?

Has he published the full report from hs lab?

has any independant lab tested the sample?

I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
are fact-checked.)


--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[d***@krl.org]

On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> Where did his samples come from?
>
> When did he get them?
>
> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>
> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>
> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
> are fact-checked.)
>
> --
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
already made up their minds.

Dan

[Grimly Fiendish]

<***@krl.org> wrote in message
news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>> Where did his samples come from?
>>
>> When did he get them?
>>
>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>
>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>
>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>> are fact-checked.)
>>
>> --
>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
> already made up their minds.
>
> Dan
>

I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so certain
that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how someone
could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are part of the
government or a troll.
When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any in the
government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or destroyed
much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb, a troll
or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in it up.

[Al Dykes]

In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>
>>> When did he get them?
>>>
>>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>
>>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>
>>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>> are fact-checked.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>
>> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>> already made up their minds.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
>I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so certain
>that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how someone
>could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are part of the
>government or a troll.
>When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any in the
>government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or destroyed
>much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb, a troll
>or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in it up.
>


Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
passengers have been identified via DNA.


There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.

There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
afterwords.

At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
and leave. Many of them saw it crash.

In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.

Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.

Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
down.






--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Autymn D. C.]

On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
> In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>
>
>
> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>
> >>> When did he get them?
>
> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>
> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>
> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
> >>> are fact-checked.)
>
> >>> --
> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
> >> already made up their minds.
>
> >> Dan
>
> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so certain
> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how someone
> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are part of the
> >government or a troll.
> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any in the
> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or destroyed
> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb, a troll
> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in it up.
>
> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>
> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>
> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
> afterwords.
>
> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>
> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>
> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>
> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
> down.
>
> --
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.

truthe > truth

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>
>>
>>
>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>
>> >>> When did he get them?
>>
>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>
>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>
>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>
>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>> >> already made up their minds.
>>
>> >> Dan
>>
>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>> >certain
>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>> >someone
>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are part of
>> >the
>> >government or a troll.
>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any in
>> >the
>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>> >destroyed
>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb, a
>> >troll
>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in it
>> >up.
>>
>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>
>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>
>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>> afterwords.
>>
>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>
>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>
>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>
>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>> down.
>>
>> --
>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>
> truthe > truth
>

ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is ineducated
another case of US misspelling of English ?

[bob]

Grimly Fiendish wrote:

>
> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>
>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>
>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>
>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>
>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>
>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>
>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>
>>> >> Dan
>>>
>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>>> >certain
>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>> >someone
>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>> part of >the
>>> >government or a troll.
>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>> in >the
>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>> >destroyed
>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>> a >troll
>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>> it >up.
>>>
>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>
>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>
>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>> afterwords.
>>>
>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>
>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>
>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>
>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>> down.
>>>
>>> --
>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>
>>
>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>
>> truthe > truth
>>
>
> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
> ineducated another case of US misspelling of English ?
That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
Depending on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
actually is a word" could easily be seen to be used much like
"illiterate". The mere misconstruction of an adjective and a participle
are not causes for condemneation - they are rather opportunities to
study the evolution of language. In this case, language is modified to
fit the needs of the speaker or the population - much like the widely
accepted process producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
dialects. While I find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
understandable (and simultaneously harmful).
In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
intelligence and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis
- one that has been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution
that is happening. Were the process to which you have currently
succumbed to continue, it won't be long before we will find you
populating the nearest tree and living on fruits and insects.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
news:l6-***@comcast.com...
> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
>>
>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>
>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>
>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>
>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>
>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>
>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>
>>>> >> Dan
>>>>
>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>>>> >certain
>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>>> >someone
>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>> part of >the
>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>> in >the
>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>>> >destroyed
>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>>> a >troll
>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>> it >up.
>>>>
>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>
>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>
>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>> afterwords.
>>>>
>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>
>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>
>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>
>>>
>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>
>>> truthe > truth
>>>
>>
>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is ineducated
>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is a
> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The mere
> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While I
> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
> simultaneously harmful).
> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of intelligence
> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one that has
> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed to
> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the nearest
> tree and living on fruits and insects.

Fuck off stalker.

[bob]

Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> "bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
> news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>
>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>>>>> "peer
>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be
>>>>> so >certain
>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>>>> >someone
>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>> part of >the
>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>> in >the
>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>>>> a >troll
>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>
>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>
>>>
>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>> ineducated another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>
>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>> Depending on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>> actually is a word" could easily be seen to be used much like
>> "illiterate". The mere misconstruction of an adjective and a
>> participle are not causes for condemneation - they are rather
>> opportunities to study the evolution of language. In this case,
>> language is modified to fit the needs of the speaker or the population
>> - much like the widely accepted process producing "ghetto speak" or
>> "jive" or black inner city dialects. While I find them horrible to
>> listen to, their genesis is understandable (and simultaneously harmful).
>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>> intelligence and willingness to sign on to a completely false
>> hypothesis - one that has been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it
>> is devolution that is happening. Were the process to which you have
>> currently succumbed to continue, it won't be long before we will find
>> you populating the nearest tree and living on fruits and insects.
>
>
> Fuck off stalker.
Oooh - what an intelligent reply. I've read many of your other posts -
you're a real braintrust, aren't you? You have quite the nerve to
criticize anyone for spelling and grammar. BTW - how is that tree?

[Grimly Fiendish]

"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
news:***@comcast.com...
> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>> "bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>> news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>
>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>>>>>> "peer
>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be
>>>>>> so >certain
>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>>>>> >someone
>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>>> in >the
>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>>>>> plane
>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
>>>>>> lie,
>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>
>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>> ineducated another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>
>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is
>>> a word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The
>>> mere misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While
>>> I find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>> intelligence and willingness to sign on to a completely false
>>> hypothesis - one that has been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is
>>> devolution that is happening. Were the process to which you have
>>> currently succumbed to continue, it won't be long before we will find
>>> you populating the nearest tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>
>>
>> Fuck off stalker.
> Oooh - what an intelligent reply. I've read many of your other posts -
> you're a real braintrust, aren't you? You have quite the nerve to
> criticize anyone for spelling and grammar. BTW - how is that tree?

Yes i know you've read lots of my posts in the windows help groups beacuse
you are a sad stalker, i'm sorry but i'm not interested, how long did it
take you to find me posting here fuck troll ?
The only thing you know about metal is plate they used to stick your skull
back together after the accident.

[bob]

Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> "bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
> news:***@comcast.com...
>
>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>> news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>>>>>>> "peer
>>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be
>>>>>>> so >certain
>>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor
>>>>>>> how >someone
>>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>>>> in >the
>>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored
>>>>>>> or >destroyed
>>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely
>>>>>>> dumb,
>>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>>>>>> plane
>>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
>>>>>>> lie,
>>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>> ineducated another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an
>>>> uneducated cretin. There are many English dialects and local
>>>> variations. Depending on their genesis, a word like "ineducate"
>>>> (whether or not it actually is a word" could easily be seen to be
>>>> used much like "illiterate". The mere misconstruction of an
>>>> adjective and a participle are not causes for condemneation - they
>>>> are rather opportunities to study the evolution of language. In
>>>> this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the speaker or
>>>> the population - much like the widely accepted process producing
>>>> "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While I find
>>>> them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>> intelligence and willingness to sign on to a completely false
>>>> hypothesis - one that has been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it
>>>> is devolution that is happening. Were the process to which you have
>>>> currently succumbed to continue, it won't be long before we will
>>>> find you populating the nearest tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuck off stalker.
>>
>> Oooh - what an intelligent reply. I've read many of your other posts
>> - you're a real braintrust, aren't you? You have quite the nerve to
>> criticize anyone for spelling and grammar. BTW - how is that tree?
>
>
> Yes i know you've read lots of my posts in the windows help groups
> beacuse you are a sad stalker, i'm sorry but i'm not interested, how
> long did it take you to find me posting here fuck troll ?
> The only thing you know about metal is plate they used to stick your
> skull back together after the accident.
>
It didn't take me long to find you at all - I just turned on my "Find
the most challenged poster" filter, then applied a "determine the most
clueless of the stupid" algorithm, and - your name popped up! See -
you're famous!

LOL - don't get that single synapse get too tired.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:46 -0500, bob <***@sss.net> wrote:

>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>> "bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>> news:***@comcast.com...
>>
>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>>>>>>>> "peer
>>>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be
>>>>>>>> so >certain
>>>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor
>>>>>>>> how >someone
>>>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>>>>> in >the
>>>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored
>>>>>>>> or >destroyed
>>>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely
>>>>>>>> dumb,
>>>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>>>>>>> plane
>>>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
>>>>>>>> lie,
>>>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>>> ineducated another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an
>>>>> uneducated cretin. There are many English dialects and local
>>>>> variations. Depending on their genesis, a word like "ineducate"
>>>>> (whether or not it actually is a word" could easily be seen to be
>>>>> used much like "illiterate". The mere misconstruction of an
>>>>> adjective and a participle are not causes for condemneation - they
>>>>> are rather opportunities to study the evolution of language. In
>>>>> this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the speaker or
>>>>> the population - much like the widely accepted process producing
>>>>> "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While I find
>>>>> them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>>>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>> intelligence and willingness to sign on to a completely false
>>>>> hypothesis - one that has been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it
>>>>> is devolution that is happening. Were the process to which you have
>>>>> currently succumbed to continue, it won't be long before we will
>>>>> find you populating the nearest tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fuck off stalker.
>>>
>>> Oooh - what an intelligent reply. I've read many of your other posts
>>> - you're a real braintrust, aren't you? You have quite the nerve to
>>> criticize anyone for spelling and grammar. BTW - how is that tree?
>>
>>
>> Yes i know you've read lots of my posts in the windows help groups
>> beacuse you are a sad stalker, i'm sorry but i'm not interested, how
>> long did it take you to find me posting here fuck troll ?
>> The only thing you know about metal is plate they used to stick your
>> skull back together after the accident.
>>
>It didn't take me long to find you at all - I just turned on my "Find
>the most challenged poster" filter, then applied a "determine the most
>clueless of the stupid" algorithm, and - your name popped up! See -
>you're famous!
>
>LOL - don't get that single synapse get too tired.

Cross post removed from the welding newsgroup and sent over to
misc.survivalism.

This is gonna be good....<EG>

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

[Gunner Asch]

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>
>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>>>>> >certain
>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>>>> >someone
>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>> part of >the
>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>> in >the
>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>>>> a >troll
>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the plane
>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a lie,
>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>
>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>
>>>
>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is ineducated
>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is a
>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The mere
>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While I
>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>> simultaneously harmful).
>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of intelligence
>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one that has
>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed to
>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the nearest
>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>
>Fuck off stalker.


I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
>>
>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>>>>>> >certain
>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>>>>> >someone
>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>>> in >the
>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>>>>> plane
>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
>>>>>> lie,
>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>
>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>> ineducated
>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is
>>> a
>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The mere
>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While
>>> I
>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>> intelligence
>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one that
>>> has
>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed to
>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>> nearest
>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>
>>Fuck off stalker.
>
>
> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>
> Gunner
>
> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean
> end.
>

Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>
>"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:***@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>>>>>>> >certain
>>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>>>>>>> >someone
>>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>>>>>>> in >the
>>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>>>>>> plane
>>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
>>>>>>> lie,
>>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>> ineducated
>>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
>>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
>>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is
>>>> a
>>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The mere
>>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
>>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
>>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While
>>>> I
>>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>> intelligence
>>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one that
>>>> has
>>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed to
>>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>> nearest
>>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>
>>>Fuck off stalker.
>>
>>
>> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean
>> end.
>>
>
>Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?

Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.

So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
their strong suite, nor yours.

So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
Papists?
Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?


Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

[The Seventh Sign]

On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>
>
>
> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:***@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>
> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>
> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>
> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>
> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>
> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>
> >>>>>>> >>> --
> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>
> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>
> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
> >>>>>>> >certain
> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
> >>>>>>> >someone
> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
> >>>>>>> part of >the
> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
> >>>>>>> in >the
> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
> >>>>>>> >destroyed
> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
> >>>>>>> a >troll
> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
> >>>>>>> it >up.
>
> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>
> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>
> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>
> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
> >>>>>>> plane
> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>
> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>
> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
> >>>>>>> lie,
> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>
> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
> >>>>>>> down.
>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>
> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>
> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
> >>>>> ineducated
> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is
> >>>> a
> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The mere
> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While
> >>>> I
> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
> >>>> intelligence
> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one that
> >>>> has
> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed to
> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
> >>>> nearest
> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>
> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>
> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>
> >> Gunner
>
> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean
> >> end.
>
> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>
> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>
> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
> their strong suite, nor yours.
>
> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
> Papists?
> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>
> Gunner
>
> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
thermite.

Of course i may be wrong.

TSS

[Me]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:

> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
> Papists?
> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?

Actually, C4 will not "Ignite" Thermite, or if you prefer Steve Jones's
chosen word "Thermate".... It will cause it to be spread over the entire
Blast Radious, but it would not "Ignite" it, as the density of the
"Thermite" mixture wouldn't be sufficent. Thermite needs to be packed
against the Steel to effective, not scattered throughout the Blast
Radius. Steve Jones did Physics, not Chemistry, and he is way out of
his Field of Expertiese, when he blathers about, on this seneerio.
Funny how there has NEVER been a Trace of ANY NitroOrganic found in
ANY of the Forensic Testing, done on the Debri from the WTC......
The Bad guys must have used Black Powder...... That's It....
Black Powder......

Me a NitroOrganic Chemist in a previous life.........

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:12:16 GMT, Me <***@shadow.orgs> wrote:

>In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>> Papists?
>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>
>Actually, C4 will not "Ignite" Thermite, or if you prefer Steve Jones's
>chosen word "Thermate".... It will cause it to be spread over the entire
>Blast Radious, but it would not "Ignite" it, as the density of the
>"Thermite" mixture wouldn't be sufficent. Thermite needs to be packed
>against the Steel to effective, not scattered throughout the Blast
>Radius. Steve Jones did Physics, not Chemistry, and he is way out of
>his Field of Expertiese, when he blathers about, on this seneerio.
>Funny how there has NEVER been a Trace of ANY NitroOrganic found in
>ANY of the Forensic Testing, done on the Debri from the WTC......
>The Bad guys must have used Black Powder...... That's It....
>Black Powder......
>
>Me a NitroOrganic Chemist in a previous life.........


Black powder taken from a secret stockpile left over from the failed
Guy Fawlks bombing attempt and shipped to the US in the cargo holds of
surplus Russian submarines.

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Me" <***@shadow.orgs> wrote in message
news:Me-***@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>> Papists?
>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>
> Actually, C4 will not "Ignite" Thermite

Bloodyhell i didn't know Channel Four could do that either !!

, or if you prefer Steve Jones's
> chosen word "Thermate"....

It's not a chosen word, there is a distinct difference:

"Thermate is an incendiary pyrotechnic composition, a thermite-like compound
used for military applications. Thermate, whose primary component is
thermite, also contains sulfur and sometimes barium nitrate, both of which
increase its thermal effect, create flame in burning, and significantly
reduce the ignition temperature. Various mixtures of these compounds can be
called thermate, but, to avoid confusion with Thermate-TH3, one can refer to
them as thermite variants or analogs. The composition by weight of
Thermate-TH3 (in military use) is 68.7% thermite, 29.0% barium nitrate, 2.0%
sulfur and 0.3% binder."

Thermite does not include the additional chemicals mention above and is not
as fierce.

> It will cause it to be spread over the entire
> Blast Radious, but it would not "Ignite" it, as the density of the
> "Thermite" mixture wouldn't be sufficent. Thermite needs to be packed
> against the Steel to effective, not scattered throughout the Blast
> Radius. Steve Jones did Physics, not Chemistry, and he is way out of
> his Field of Expertiese, when he blathers about, on this seneerio.
> Funny how there has NEVER been a Trace of ANY NitroOrganic found in
> ANY of the Forensic Testing, done on the Debri from the WTC......
> The Bad guys must have used Black Powder...... That's It....
> Black Powder......
>
> Me a NitroOrganic Chemist in a previous life.........

[a***@Example.com]

Grimly Fiendish <***@sexfiend.fsnot.co.youk> wrote:
> Bloodyhell i didn't know Channel Four could do that either !!

GF, as you know, most places in the US don't have a channel 4. ;)
By chance it's NBC near here tho.

> > ...or if you prefer Steve Jones's chosen word "Thermate"....
> It's not a chosen word, there is a distinct difference:

> "Thermate is an incendiary pyrotechnic composition, a
> thermite-like compound used for military applications. Thermate,
> whose primary component is thermite, also contains sulfur and
> sometimes barium nitrate, both of which increase its thermal
> effect, create flame in burning, and significantly reduce the
> ignition temperature. Various mixtures of these compounds can be
> called thermate, but, to avoid confusion with Thermate-TH3, one
> can refer to them as thermite variants or analogs. The composition
> by weight of Thermate-TH3 (in military use) is 68.7% thermite,
> 29.0% barium nitrate, 2.0% sulfur and 0.3% binder."

Cool one GF. :)
Looks like good ol' "GF Sr." is back at the keyboard again.
Kinda missed you for awhile, BTW could you whip the tar out of
"GF Jr." for us? :/ (talkin'bout a spoiled brat)

Alvin in AZ
ps- My Mess-can friends call what I speak "Eng-less".
pps- That about sums it up don't it?

[Al Dykes]

In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>
>>
>>
>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>> In article
>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>
>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly
>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>
>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that have
>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>
>> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>
>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could be so
>> >>>>>>> >certain
>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor how
>> >>>>>>> >someone
>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they are
>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if any
>> >>>>>>> in >the
>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored or
>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely dumb,
>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100% belief in
>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that were
>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to Twoofer
>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim seeing
>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC. Contrary to
>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all the
>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>
>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC. All
>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>
>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud noise".
>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent with
>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate and
>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody saw
>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>
>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>> >>>>>>> plane
>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over it
>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>
>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been recovered and
>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is a
>> >>>>>>> lie,
>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth Movement"
>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of the
>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would have
>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of TNT,
>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a tower
>> >>>>>>> down.
>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>
>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>
>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>
>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>> >>>>> ineducated
>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an uneducated
>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations. Depending
>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it actually is
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The mere
>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the evolution of
>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of the
>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects. While
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable (and
>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>> >>>> intelligence
>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one that
>> >>>> has
>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed to
>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>> >>>> nearest
>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>
>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>
>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>
>> >> Gunner
>>
>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean
>> >> end.
>>
>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>
>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>
>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>
>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>> Papists?
>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
>
>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>thermite.
>
>Of course i may be wrong.
>

There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
of sheetrock in WTC.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can
>>> >>>>>>> >>> be
>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since
>>> >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that
>>> >>>>>>> >> have
>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could
>>> >>>>>>> >be so
>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor
>>> >>>>>>> >how
>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they
>>> >>>>>>> >are
>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if
>>> >>>>>>> >any
>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored
>>> >>>>>>> >or
>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely
>>> >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that
>>> >>>>>>> were
>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC.
>>> >>>>>>> All
>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent
>>> >>>>>>> with
>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate
>>> >>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody
>>> >>>>>>> saw
>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over
>>> >>>>>>> it
>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is
>>> >>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would
>>> >>>>>>> have
>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of
>>> >>>>>>> TNT,
>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a
>>> >>>>>>> tower
>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>
>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>
>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>
>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an
>>> >>>> uneducated
>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>> >>>> Depending
>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>> >>>> actually is
>>> >>>> a
>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The
>>> >>>> mere
>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the
>>> >>>> evolution of
>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects.
>>> >>>> While
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable
>>> >>>> (and
>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>> >>>> intelligence
>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one
>>> >>>> that
>>> >>>> has
>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>> >>>> nearest
>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>
>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>
>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>
>>> >> Gunner
>>>
>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>> >> clean
>>> >> end.
>>>
>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>
>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>
>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>
>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>> Papists?
>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean
>>> end.
>>
>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>thermite.
>>
>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>
>
> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
> of sheetrock in WTC.
>

sheetrock LOL
Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.

[Al Dykes]

In article <47372396$0$47120$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>
...

>>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>thermite.
>>>
>>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>>
>>
>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>
>
>sheetrock LOL
>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>

maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.

http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/brand_overview/Sheetrock_Brand-BO.htm

Google for "sheetrock garden' will show that there is so much sulfer
in it that gardners use it as anadditive in sulfur-poor soil.



Grimly Fiendish aka <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> is as arrogant as
he is ignorant.


<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8137991504304840706>

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8460021418711298647>

<http://www.uwgb.edu/birds/wbba/species/audios/LOON__COMMON.MP3>

[Scott M. Kozel]

***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >
> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
> >
> >sheetrock LOL
> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>
> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
> http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/brand_overview/Sheetrock_Brand-BO.htm

Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
Corporation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:49:15 -0500, "Scott M. Kozel"
<***@comcast.net> wrote:

>***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>> >
>> >sheetrock LOL
>> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>> http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/brand_overview/Sheetrock_Brand-BO.htm
>
>Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>Corporation.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock


Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
was for copy machines.

Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

[Scott M. Kozel]

Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
> >> >
> >> >sheetrock LOL
> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
> >>
> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
> >
> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
> > Corporation.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>
> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
> was for copy machines.

Also like Kleenex for facial tissue... a manufacturers brand name of a
product that has such high market share (at least in the early years of
the product) that it becomes the common generic term for that item.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:***@comcast.net...
> Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was
>> >> >> lots
>> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>> >> >
>> >> >sheetrock LOL
>> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more
>> >> >plausible/realistic.
>> >>
>> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>> >
>> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>> > Corporation.
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>>
>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
>> was for copy machines.
>
> Also like Kleenex for facial tissue... a manufacturers brand name of a
> product that has such high market share (at least in the early years of
> the product) that it becomes the common generic term for that item.

Where ?
Is this just an American thing that they use names instead of accurate
descriptions that everyone can understand ?

Oh and incase you hadn't notice Kleenex make bog rolls, snot rags, kitchen
towels and a host of other things, Next time you ask for a Kleenex you might
get a nasty suprise !!

Likewise Xerox make printers, scanners, photcopiers, paper, cameras and a
host of other products, tell you what buy a Xerox of me for 3,000GBP and
i'll send you a Zerox :-)

[bob]

Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:***@comcast.net...
>
>> Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there
>>> was >> >> lots
>>> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >sheetrock LOL
>>> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more >>
>>> >plausible/realistic.
>>> >>
>>> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>>> >
>>> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>>> > Corporation.
>>> >
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>>>
>>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
>>> was for copy machines.
>>
>>
>> Also like Kleenex for facial tissue... a manufacturers brand name of a
>> product that has such high market share (at least in the early years of
>> the product) that it becomes the common generic term for that item.
>
>
> Where ?
> Is this just an American thing that they use names instead of accurate
> descriptions that everyone can understand ?
>
> Oh and incase you hadn't notice Kleenex make bog rolls, snot rags,
> kitchen towels and a host of other things, Next time you ask for a
> Kleenex you might get a nasty suprise !!
>
> Likewise Xerox make printers, scanners, photcopiers, paper, cameras and
> a host of other products, tell you what buy a Xerox of me for 3,000GBP
> and i'll send you a Zerox :-)
>
The more you say, the more of an asshole you show yourself to be.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
news:q-***@comcast.com...
> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:***@comcast.net...
>>
>>> Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there
>>>> was >> >> lots
>>>> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >sheetrock LOL
>>>> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>>> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more >>
>>>> >plausible/realistic.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>>>> > Corporation.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>>>>
>>>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
>>>> was for copy machines.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also like Kleenex for facial tissue... a manufacturers brand name of a
>>> product that has such high market share (at least in the early years of
>>> the product) that it becomes the common generic term for that item.
>>
>>
>> Where ?
>> Is this just an American thing that they use names instead of accurate
>> descriptions that everyone can understand ?
>>
>> Oh and incase you hadn't notice Kleenex make bog rolls, snot rags,
>> kitchen towels and a host of other things, Next time you ask for a
>> Kleenex you might get a nasty suprise !!
>>
>> Likewise Xerox make printers, scanners, photcopiers, paper, cameras and a
>> host of other products, tell you what buy a Xerox of me for 3,000GBP and
>> i'll send you a Zerox :-)
>>
> The more you say, the more of an asshole you show yourself to be.

What was that shit for brains ?

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:50:06 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>Oh and incase you hadn't notice Kleenex make bog rolls,

You wipe your ass with pieces of swamp?

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

[a***@Example.com]

In sci.engr.metallurgy Gunner Asch wrote:
> >Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by
> >USG Corporation.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like
> Xerox was for copy machines.
> Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
> Gunner

...and your Arizona friends too. :)

They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.

Alvin in AZ

[Lawrence Glickman]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:26:24 +0000 (UTC), ***@Example.com wrote:

>In sci.engr.metallurgy Gunner Asch wrote:
>> >Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by
>> >USG Corporation.
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like
>> Xerox was for copy machines.
>> Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
>> Gunner
>
>...and your Arizona friends too. :)
>
>They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>
>Alvin in AZ

I thought there might be a reason to keep Arizona around...just didn't
know what it was.

[Scott M. Kozel]

***@Example.com wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
> > >Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by
> > >USG Corporation.
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
> > Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like
> > Xerox was for copy machines.
> > Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
> > Gunner
>
> ...and your Arizona friends too. :)
>
> They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.

Is calcium sulfate flammable, and if so at what temperature?

[Scott M. Kozel]

"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ***@Example.com wrote:
>
> > They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>
> Is calcium sulfate flammable, and if so at what temperature?

I now see that there are numerous references that indicate that gypsum
is not flammable. Here is one --

Product Name: Gypsum
Other Names: Calcium sulfate dihydrate, phosphogypsum
[...]
Fire Hazards: Gypsum is not flammable and will not support combustion.

http://www.csbp.com.au/downloads/chemicals/1071198990_Gypsum.pdf

...

Obviously the heavy paper on the outside of sheetrock is flammable.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:***@comcast.net...
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> ***@Example.com wrote:
>>
>> > They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>>
>> Is calcium sulfate flammable, and if so at what temperature?
>
> I now see that there are numerous references that indicate that gypsum
> is not flammable. Here is one --
>
> Product Name: Gypsum
> Other Names: Calcium sulfate dihydrate, phosphogypsum
> [...]
> Fire Hazards: Gypsum is not flammable and will not support combustion.
>
> http://www.csbp.com.au/downloads/chemicals/1071198990_Gypsum.pdf
>

What kind of idiot would suggest plaster board is flammable, have you ever
seen rock burn ?
It melts.
I don't think it burning is the issue, it is just the fact that it would
have left sulphur deposits.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:***@comcast.net...
> "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> ***@Example.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>> >>
>> >> Is calcium sulfate flammable, and if so at what temperature?
>> >
>> > I now see that there are numerous references that indicate that gypsum
>> > is not flammable. Here is one --
>> >
>> > Product Name: Gypsum
>> > Other Names: Calcium sulfate dihydrate, phosphogypsum
>> > [...]
>> > Fire Hazards: Gypsum is not flammable and will not support combustion.
>> >
>> > http://www.csbp.com.au/downloads/chemicals/1071198990_Gypsum.pdf
>>
>> What kind of idiot would suggest plaster board is flammable, have you
>> ever
>> seen rock burn ?
>> It melts.
>> I don't think it burning is the issue, it is just the fact that it would
>> have left sulphur deposits.
>
> I posted that because someone upthread seemed to indicate that because
> it contains sulfur that it could burn.

Must have missed that, or perhaps they just didn't write it well.

[Scott M. Kozel]

"Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> > "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> ***@Example.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
> >>
> >> Is calcium sulfate flammable, and if so at what temperature?
> >
> > I now see that there are numerous references that indicate that gypsum
> > is not flammable. Here is one --
> >
> > Product Name: Gypsum
> > Other Names: Calcium sulfate dihydrate, phosphogypsum
> > [...]
> > Fire Hazards: Gypsum is not flammable and will not support combustion.
> >
> > http://www.csbp.com.au/downloads/chemicals/1071198990_Gypsum.pdf
>
> What kind of idiot would suggest plaster board is flammable, have you ever
> seen rock burn ?
> It melts.
> I don't think it burning is the issue, it is just the fact that it would
> have left sulphur deposits.

I posted that because someone upthread seemed to indicate that because
it contains sulfur that it could burn.

[Martin H. Eastburn]

Rock burns - they have hard coal deposits here.
I know only bogs in the UK - so that rock is to soft to be a rock.

But having known of the Iron Bridge and what sits next to it - coal is near.

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:***@comcast.net...
>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> ***@Example.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>>>
>>> Is calcium sulfate flammable, and if so at what temperature?
>>
>> I now see that there are numerous references that indicate that gypsum
>> is not flammable. Here is one --
>>
>> Product Name: Gypsum
>> Other Names: Calcium sulfate dihydrate, phosphogypsum
>> [...]
>> Fire Hazards: Gypsum is not flammable and will not support combustion.
>>
>> http://www.csbp.com.au/downloads/chemicals/1071198990_Gypsum.pdf
>>
>
> What kind of idiot would suggest plaster board is flammable, have you
> ever seen rock burn ?
> It melts.
> I don't think it burning is the issue, it is just the fact that it would
> have left sulphur deposits.

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[Grimly Fiendish]

<***@Example.com> wrote in message news:fh8h50$rq8$***@reader1.panix.com...
> In sci.engr.metallurgy Gunner Asch wrote:
>> >Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by
>> >USG Corporation.
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like
>> Xerox was for copy machines.
>> Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
>> Gunner
>
> ...and your Arizona friends too. :)
>
> They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>

What a gay name for plasterboard LOL
Here we mine Gypsum to make Gyproc so there :-p

[Martin H. Eastburn]

White Sands and the Missie Range there is a massive area of Gypsum
that is easily seen from space.

Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


***@Example.com wrote:
> In sci.engr.metallurgy Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by
>>> USG Corporation.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like
>> Xerox was for copy machines.
>> Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
>> Gunner
>
> ...and your Arizona friends too. :)
>
> They mine gypsum (calcium sulfate) here, to make sheetrock.
>
> Alvin in AZ

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[Grimly Fiendish]

"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:49:15 -0500, "Scott M. Kozel"
> <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> >
>>> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>> >
>>> >sheetrock LOL
>>> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>>
>>> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>>> http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/brand_overview/Sheetrock_Brand-BO.htm
>>
>>Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>>Corporation.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>
>
> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
> was for copy machines.
>

Well haven't you noticed, there are a few other countries on this fucking
planet, we don't care about about a US brand as far as i'm concerned you are
talking a load of nonsense, so perhaps if you want to be understood
worldwide you should use the correct description instead of some crappy
brandname.
No wonder your peace talks don't do well, nobody can understand you because
you think every other country should know the US, speak the US and live the
US!!

> Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
>

WOOO HOOOOO
Give them a medal.

> Gunner
>

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:45:10 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>>
>>
>> Its also become the US wide generic term for gypsum board. Like Xerox
>> was for copy machines.
>>
>
>Well haven't you noticed, there are a few other countries on this fucking
>planet, we don't care about about a US brand as far as i'm concerned you are
>talking a load of nonsense, so perhaps if you want to be understood
>worldwide you should use the correct description instead of some crappy
>brandname.
>No wonder your peace talks don't do well, nobody can understand you because
>you think every other country should know the US, speak the US and live the
>US!!
>
>> Even my Canadian friends call it "sheetrock"
>>
>
>WOOO HOOOOO
>Give them a medal.
>
>> Gunner
>>

Snicker...it should be noted that your piss ant little country isnt
speaking German today because of the US.

And frankly...who cares what Eurotrash thinks?

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:***@comcast.net...
> ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>> >
>> >sheetrock LOL
>> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>> http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/brand_overview/Sheetrock_Brand-BO.htm
>
> Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
> Corporation.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock

Well no wonder no one knows what the fuck it is then, but typical of
Americans. It's about as stupid as me saying my house is built with Blue
Circle, My drains are made from Stanton, My toilet is made from Royal
Doulton and my drill is made from Black & Decker.
Oh and also if that's the case it should be Sheetrock not sheetrock.

Any how it's called plasterboard here, although i have heard of the term
drywalling.

Thanks for clearing that up :-)

[Scott M. Kozel]

"Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
> >> >
> >> >sheetrock LOL
> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
> >>
> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
> >
> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
> > Corporation.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>
> Well no wonder no one knows what the fuck it is then, but typical of
> Americans. It's about as stupid as me saying my house is built with Blue
> Circle, My drains are made from Stanton, My toilet is made from Royal
> Doulton and my drill is made from Black & Decker.
> Oh and also if that's the case it should be Sheetrock not sheetrock.

Just because someone called it sheetrock, doesn't mean
that you have to have a conniption fit.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:***@comcast.net...
> "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was
>> >> >> lots
>> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>> >> >
>> >> >sheetrock LOL
>> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more
>> >> >plausible/realistic.
>> >>
>> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>> >
>> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>> > Corporation.
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>>
>> Well no wonder no one knows what the fuck it is then, but typical of
>> Americans. It's about as stupid as me saying my house is built with Blue
>> Circle, My drains are made from Stanton, My toilet is made from Royal
>> Doulton and my drill is made from Black & Decker.
>> Oh and also if that's the case it should be Sheetrock not sheetrock.
>
> Just because someone called it sheetrock, doesn't mean
> that you have to have a conniption fit.

A what ?

[Scott M. Kozel]

"Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> > "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
> >> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
> >> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
> >> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was
> >> >> >> lots
> >> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >sheetrock LOL
> >> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
> >> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more
> >> >> >plausible/realistic.
> >> >>
> >> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
> >> >
> >> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
> >> > Corporation.
> >> >
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
> >>
> >> Well no wonder no one knows what the fuck it is then, but typical of
> >> Americans. It's about as stupid as me saying my house is built with Blue
> >> Circle, My drains are made from Stanton, My toilet is made from Royal
> >> Doulton and my drill is made from Black & Decker.
> >> Oh and also if that's the case it should be Sheetrock not sheetrock.
> >
> > Just because someone called it sheetrock, doesn't mean
> > that you have to have a conniption fit.
>
> A what ?

A fit of rage -
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conniption%20fit

[bob]

Grimly Fiendish wrote:

>
> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:***@comcast.net...
>
>> "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>> >> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>> >> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there
>>> was >> >> lots
>>> >> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >sheetrock LOL
>>> >> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>> >> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more >>
>>> >plausible/realistic.
>>> >>
>>> >> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>>> >
>>> > Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>>> > Corporation.
>>> >
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>>>
>>> Well no wonder no one knows what the fuck it is then, but typical of
>>> Americans. It's about as stupid as me saying my house is built with Blue
>>> Circle, My drains are made from Stanton, My toilet is made from Royal
>>> Doulton and my drill is made from Black & Decker.
>>> Oh and also if that's the case it should be Sheetrock not sheetrock.
>>
>>
>> Just because someone called it sheetrock, doesn't mean
>> that you have to have a conniption fit.
>
>
> A what ?

Well, if you spoke English, even if you don't know the term, you could
infer it's meaning by the context. It seems that you are even more
dense and "immature-in-letters" than previously thought.

Time to turn off your parents' computer, have a little snack and off to
bed with you!

[a***@Example.com]

In sci.engr.metallurgy bob <***@sss.net> wrote:
> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
<snip>
> Time to turn off your parents' computer, have a little snack and
> off to bed with you!
> [Bob]

LOL :)

And since "Bob's your uncle" you'd better do as he says. ;)

Alvin in AZ
ps- Saw asbestos burn before! Believe it? :)
pps- Didn't even need a match, just directed a stream of florine
gas on it and =poof= caught on fire, just like that.
ppps- Seen water burn too... believe it? ;)

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:38:52 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>
>"Scott M. Kozel" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:***@comcast.net...
>> ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>
>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>> >"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> >
>>> >> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>> >> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>> >
>>> >sheetrock LOL
>>> >Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>> >Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>>
>>> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>>> http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/brand_overview/Sheetrock_Brand-BO.htm
>>
>> Sheetrock is the brandname of the gypsum drywall manufactured by USG
>> Corporation.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetrock
>
>Well no wonder no one knows what the fuck it is then, but typical of
>Americans. It's about as stupid as me saying my house is built with Blue
>Circle, My drains are made from Stanton, My toilet is made from Royal
>Doulton and my drill is made from Black & Decker.
>Oh and also if that's the case it should be Sheetrock not sheetrock.
>
>Any how it's called plasterboard here, although i have heard of the term
>drywalling.
>
>Thanks for clearing that up :-)
>
>
You have a house made of bandages?

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fh7al7$it4$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <47372396$0$47120$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>
> ...
>
>>>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>>thermite.
>>>>
>>>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>
>>
>>sheetrock LOL
>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>
> maybe it's a regional word for gypsum board.
>

Would that be a regional name for plaster board ? LOL

(snip)

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:45:25 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>
>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those that
>>>> >>>>>>> >> have
>>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could
>>>> >>>>>>> >be so
>>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor
>>>> >>>>>>> >how
>>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they
>>>> >>>>>>> >are
>>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little if
>>>> >>>>>>> >any
>>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment ignored
>>>> >>>>>>> >or
>>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed, extremely
>>>> >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things that
>>>> >>>>>>> were
>>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at WTC.
>>>> >>>>>>> All
>>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of man-made
>>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent
>>>> >>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate
>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody
>>>> >>>>>>> saw
>>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw the
>>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly over
>>>> >>>>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement" is
>>>> >>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any of
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions would
>>>> >>>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of
>>>> >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a
>>>> >>>>>>> tower
>>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an
>>>> >>>> uneducated
>>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>> >>>> Depending
>>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>> >>>> actually is
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate". The
>>>> >>>> mere
>>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes for
>>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the
>>>> >>>> evolution of
>>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects.
>>>> >>>> While
>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable
>>>> >>>> (and
>>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>> >>>> intelligence
>>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> has
>>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently succumbed
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>> >>>> nearest
>>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>
>>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>
>>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>
>>>> >> Gunner
>>>>
>>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>> >> clean
>>>> >> end.
>>>>
>>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>
>>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>
>>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>
>>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>> Papists?
>>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>>
>>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean
>>>> end.
>>>
>>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>thermite.
>>>
>>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>>
>>
>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>
>
>sheetrock LOL
>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.


English is not your first language is it?

Gunner

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:45:25 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> can
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> or
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> that
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> have
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could
>>>>> >>>>>>> >be so
>>>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor
>>>>> >>>>>>> >how
>>>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they
>>>>> >>>>>>> >are
>>>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little
>>>>> >>>>>>> >if
>>>>> >>>>>>> >any
>>>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>>> >>>>>>> >ignored
>>>>> >>>>>>> >or
>>>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>>> >>>>>>> >extremely
>>>>> >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>>> >>>>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>>>> were
>>>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all
>>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>>> >>>>>>> WTC.
>>>>> >>>>>>> All
>>>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>>> >>>>>>> man-made
>>>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent
>>>>> >>>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate
>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody
>>>>> >>>>>>> saw
>>>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>>> >>>>>>> over
>>>>> >>>>>>> it
>>>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>>> >>>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>>>> a
>>>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any
>>>>> >>>>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>>> >>>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of
>>>>> >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a
>>>>> >>>>>>> tower
>>>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate
>>>>> >>>>>> cretins.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an
>>>>> >>>> uneducated
>>>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>>> >>>> Depending
>>>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>>> >>>> actually is
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>> >>>> mere
>>>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the
>>>>> >>>> evolution of
>>>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects.
>>>>> >>>> While
>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable
>>>>> >>>> (and
>>>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>> >>>> intelligence
>>>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one
>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>>> >>>> succumbed
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>>> >>>> nearest
>>>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>> >> clean
>>>>> >> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>>> Papists?
>>>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>> clean
>>>>> end.
>>>>
>>>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>>thermite.
>>>>
>>>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>
>>
>>sheetrock LOL
>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>
>
> English is not your first language is it?
>

Says an American LOL, go and stand in a corner for 30 mins and repeat
continuously "I must not be so stupid"

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:58:19 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>>>
>>>sheetrock LOL
>>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>>
>> English is not your first language is it?
>>
>
>Says an American LOL, go and stand in a corner for 30 mins and repeat
>continuously "I must not be so stupid"

So you are British...then indeed..English isnt your first language.

Pity


The Problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. It not only
borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other
languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled
their pockets for new vocabulary. ~ James Nicoll





"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

[Lawrence Glickman]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:45:25 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>sheetrock LOL
>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.

In the USA, sheetrock is the name given to wallboard. In the older
days, plaster was used...now *sheetrock.* look it up in google.

Lg

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Lawrence Glickman" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:45:25 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
>>sheetrock LOL
>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>
> In the USA, sheetrock is the name given to wallboard. In the older
> days, plaster was used...now *sheetrock.* look it up in google.
>

Well again, you are not in the bloody USA now, you are across the whole
world so try using something everybody can understand instead of a poxy
shitty US brandname.

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:59:59 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>
>"Lawrence Glickman" <***@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:***@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:45:25 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>
>>>sheetrock LOL
>>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>> In the USA, sheetrock is the name given to wallboard. In the older
>> days, plaster was used...now *sheetrock.* look it up in google.
>>
>
>Well again, you are not in the bloody USA now, you are across the whole
>world so try using something everybody can understand instead of a poxy
>shitty US brandname.


The US owns most of the world. You just havent comprehended the fact
it changed ownership..or are in denial, serf.

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

[N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)]

Dear Gunner Asch:

"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
...
> The US owns most of the world. You just havent
> comprehended the fact it changed ownership..or
> are in denial, serf.

You've got your ownership incorrect. The USA is owned lock,
stock, and barrel by China, Japan, and two or three Arabian
countries. Almost every natural resource pulled out of the
ground here is shipped West... to board a ship.

David A. Smith

[bob]

Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>
>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>> can >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by
>>>> scientists or
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature
>>>> since >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>> that >>>>>>> >> have
>>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone
>>>> could >>>>>>> >be so
>>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate,
>>>> nor >>>>>>> >how
>>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless
>>>> they >>>>>>> >are
>>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very
>>>> little if >>>>>>> >any
>>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>> ignored >>>>>>> >or
>>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>> extremely >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>> that >>>>>>> were
>>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and
>>>> all >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>> WTC. >>>>>>> All
>>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>> man-made
>>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing
>>>> consistent >>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to
>>>> operate >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag.
>>>> Nobody >>>>>>> saw
>>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>> over >>>>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>> is >>>>>>> a
>>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with
>>>> any of >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>> would >>>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton
>>>> of >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing
>>>> a >>>>>>> tower
>>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an >>>>
>>>> uneducated
>>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>> >>>> Depending
>>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>> >>>> actually is
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>> The >>>> mere
>>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>> for
>>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the >>>>
>>>> evolution of
>>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs
>>>> of >>>> the
>>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
>>>> dialects. >>>> While
>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
>>>> understandable >>>> (and
>>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>> >>>> intelligence
>>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis -
>>>> one >>>> that
>>>> >>>> has
>>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>> succumbed >>>> to
>>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>> >>>> nearest
>>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>
>>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>
>>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>
>>>> >> Gunner
>>>>
>>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>> >> clean
>>>> >> end.
>>>>
>>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>
>>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>
>>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>
>>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>> Papists?
>>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>>
>>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>> clean end.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>> Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>> the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>> hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>> grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>> thermite.
>>>
>>> Of course i may be wrong.
>>>
>>
>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>
>
> sheetrock LOL
> Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
> Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.

Huh? What language is it that you claim to speak? You don't know what
sheetrock is? How about "drywall" - ever hear of that? Basically - it
is formed hardened gypsum sandwiched between layers of heavy paper -
usually in 4 foot by either 8 foot or 12 foot sections - and used as
quick and effective wall covering material. It can be purchased in
almost any home supply or hardware store - at least here in the US.

[Al Dykes]

In article <ad-***@comcast.com>,
bob <***@sss.net> wrote:
>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>
>>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>>> can >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by
>>>>> scientists or
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature
>>>>> since >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>>> that >>>>>>> >> have
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone
>>>>> could >>>>>>> >be so
>>>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate,
>>>>> nor >>>>>>> >how
>>>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless
>>>>> they >>>>>>> >are
>>>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very
>>>>> little if >>>>>>> >any
>>>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>>> ignored >>>>>>> >or
>>>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>>> extremely >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>>> that >>>>>>> were
>>>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and
>>>>> all >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>>> WTC. >>>>>>> All
>>>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>>> man-made
>>>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing
>>>>> consistent >>>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to
>>>>> operate >>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag.
>>>>> Nobody >>>>>>> saw
>>>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>>> over >>>>>>> it
>>>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>>> is >>>>>>> a
>>>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with
>>>>> any of >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>>> would >>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton
>>>>> of >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing
>>>>> a >>>>>>> tower
>>>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an >>>>
>>>>> uneducated
>>>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>>> >>>> Depending
>>>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>>> >>>> actually is
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>>> The >>>> mere
>>>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the >>>>
>>>>> evolution of
>>>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs
>>>>> of >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
>>>>> dialects. >>>> While
>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
>>>>> understandable >>>> (and
>>>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>> >>>> intelligence
>>>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis -
>>>>> one >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>>> succumbed >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>>> >>>> nearest
>>>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>> >> clean
>>>>> >> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>>> Papists?
>>>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>> clean end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>> Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>> the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>> hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>> grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>> thermite.
>>>>
>>>> Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>
>>
>> sheetrock LOL
>> Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>> Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>
>Huh? What language is it that you claim to speak? You don't know what
>sheetrock is? How about "drywall" - ever hear of that? Basically - it
>is formed hardened gypsum sandwiched between layers of heavy paper -
>usually in 4 foot by either 8 foot or 12 foot sections - and used as
>quick and effective wall covering material. It can be purchased in
>almost any home supply or hardware store - at least here in the US.
>

I suspect that this says more about the age of Grimly Fiendish and not
his language skils.

[bob]

Al Dykes wrote:

> In article <ad-***@comcast.com>,
> bob <***@sss.net> wrote:
>
>>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>>>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:***@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>>>><***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>><46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When did he get them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allegedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"peer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>can >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fact-checked. (not all papers are published by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>scientists or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature
>>>>>>
>>>>>>since >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that >>>>>>> >> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already made up their minds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>could >>>>>>> >be so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>nor >>>>>>> >how
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could be so willing to believe their government, Unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>they >>>>>>> >are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>part of >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>government or a troll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When you look at the evidence (of which there is very
>>>>>>
>>>>>>little if >>>>>>> >any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>in >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ignored >>>>>>> >or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>destroyed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>extremely >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >troll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>belief in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it >up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that >>>>>>> were
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twoofer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Contrary to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>all >>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>WTC. >>>>>>> All
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>man-made
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>noise".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>consistent >>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>operate >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nobody >>>>>>> saw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>afterwords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>plane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>over >>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>recovered and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>is >>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>lie,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Movement"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>any of >>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>would >>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a >>>>>>> tower
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate cretins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>truthe > truth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>>>>>>>>ineducated
>>>>>>>>>>>another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an >>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>uneducated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>>>>>>>>Depending
>>>>>>>>>>on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>>>>>>>>actually is
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The >>>> mere
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the >>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>evolution of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of >>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>>>>>>>>producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
>>>>>>
>>>>>>dialects. >>>> While
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>understandable >>>> (and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>simultaneously harmful).
>>>>>>>>>>In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>>>>>>>intelligence
>>>>>>>>>>and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>one >>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>>>>>>>>happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>succumbed >>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>>>>>>>>nearest
>>>>>>>>>>tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>>>>>>Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Gunner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>>>>>illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>>>>>unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>>>>>proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>>>>>clean
>>>>>>>>end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>>>>>synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>>>>newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>>>>promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>>>>there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>>>>another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>>>>and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>>>>of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>>>>which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>>>>>hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>>>>Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>>>>>give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>>>>you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>>>>their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>>>>>the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>>>>Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>>>>Papists?
>>>>>>Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gunner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>>>illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>>>unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>>>proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>>>clean end.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>>>thermite.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>>>of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>>
>>>
>>>sheetrock LOL
>>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>>Huh? What language is it that you claim to speak? You don't know what
>>sheetrock is? How about "drywall" - ever hear of that? Basically - it
>>is formed hardened gypsum sandwiched between layers of heavy paper -
>>usually in 4 foot by either 8 foot or 12 foot sections - and used as
>>quick and effective wall covering material. It can be purchased in
>>almost any home supply or hardware store - at least here in the US.
>>
>
>
> I suspect that this says more about the age of Grimly Fiendish and not
> his language skils.
>
>
>
I think you are right. I wish his parents would stop leaving their
computer unattended - he can get into such trouble with it.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
news:cqidnYkUisfP-***@comcast.com...
> Al Dykes wrote:
>
>> In article <ad-***@comcast.com>,
>> bob <***@sss.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:***@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>>>>><***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When did he get them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allegedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"peer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>can >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fact-checked. (not all papers are published by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>scientists or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>since >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that >>>>>>> >> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already made up their minds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>could >>>>>>> >be so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>nor >>>>>>> >how
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could be so willing to believe their government, Unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they >>>>>>> >are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>part of >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>government or a troll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When you look at the evidence (of which there is very
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>little if >>>>>>> >any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in >the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ignored >>>>>>> >or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>destroyed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>extremely >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a >troll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>belief in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it >up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that >>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twoofer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Contrary to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>all >>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>WTC. >>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>man-made
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noise".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>consistent >>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>operate >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nobody >>>>>>> saw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>afterwords.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>plane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>over >>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>recovered and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is >>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lie,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Movement"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>any of >>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>would >>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a >>>>>>> tower
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>cretins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>truthe > truth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>>>>>>>>>ineducated
>>>>>>>>>>>>another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an >>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>uneducated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>>>>>>>>>Depending
>>>>>>>>>>>on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>>>>>>>>>actually is
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The >>>> mere
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the >>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>evolution of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of >>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>>>>>>>>>producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dialects. >>>> While
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>understandable >>>> (and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>simultaneously harmful).
>>>>>>>>>>>In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>>>>>>>>intelligence
>>>>>>>>>>>and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>one >>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>>>>>>>>>happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>succumbed >>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>>>>>>>>>nearest
>>>>>>>>>>>tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>>>>>>>Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Gunner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>>>>>>illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>>>>>>unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>>>>>>proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>>>>>>clean
>>>>>>>>>end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few
>>>>>>>feeble
>>>>>>>synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>>>>>newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>>>>>promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>>>>>there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>>>>>another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>>>>>and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>>>>>of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>>>>>which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching
>>>>>>>corpus
>>>>>>>hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>>>>>Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>>>>>you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>>>>>their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>>>>>Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>>>>>Papists?
>>>>>>>Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Gunner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>>>>illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>>>>unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>>>>proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>>>>clean end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>>>>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>>>>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>>>>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>>>>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>>>>thermite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>>>>of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>sheetrock LOL
>>>>Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>>>Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>>
>>>Huh? What language is it that you claim to speak? You don't know what
>>>sheetrock is? How about "drywall" - ever hear of that? Basically - it
>>>is formed hardened gypsum sandwiched between layers of heavy paper -
>>>usually in 4 foot by either 8 foot or 12 foot sections - and used as
>>>quick and effective wall covering material. It can be purchased in
>>>almost any home supply or hardware store - at least here in the US.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect that this says more about the age of Grimly Fiendish and not
>> his language skils.
>>
>>
>>
> I think you are right. I wish his parents would stop leaving their
> computer unattended - he can get into such trouble with it.

Knob head

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fh7ngb$kfj$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <ad-***@comcast.com>,
> bob <***@sss.net> wrote:
>>Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>
>>> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>>
>>>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>>>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>>>> can >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by
>>>>>> scientists or
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature
>>>>>> since >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>>>> that >>>>>>> >> have
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone
>>>>>> could >>>>>>> >be so
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate,
>>>>>> nor >>>>>>> >how
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless
>>>>>> they >>>>>>> >are
>>>>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very
>>>>>> little if >>>>>>> >any
>>>>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>>>> ignored >>>>>>> >or
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>>>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>>>> that >>>>>>> were
>>>>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>>>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and
>>>>>> all >>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>>>> WTC. >>>>>>> All
>>>>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>>>> man-made
>>>>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing
>>>>>> consistent >>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to
>>>>>> operate >>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag.
>>>>>> Nobody >>>>>>> saw
>>>>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>>>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>>>> over >>>>>>> it
>>>>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>>>> is >>>>>>> a
>>>>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>>>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with
>>>>>> any of >>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>>>> would >>>>>>> have
>>>>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton
>>>>>> of >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing
>>>>>> a >>>>>>> tower
>>>>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since
>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2001
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate
>>>>>> >>>>>> cretins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>>>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an >>>>
>>>>>> uneducated
>>>>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>>>> >>>> Depending
>>>>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>>>> >>>> actually is
>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>>>> The >>>> mere
>>>>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the >>>>
>>>>>> evolution of
>>>>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs
>>>>>> of >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted
>>>>>> >>>> process
>>>>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
>>>>>> dialects. >>>> While
>>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
>>>>>> understandable >>>> (and
>>>>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>>> >>>> intelligence
>>>>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis -
>>>>>> one >>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>>>> succumbed >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> nearest
>>>>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Gunner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>>> >> clean
>>>>>> >> end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few
>>>>>> feeble
>>>>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching
>>>>>> corpus
>>>>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>>>> Papists?
>>>>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>>> clean end.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>>> Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>>> the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>>> hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>>> grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>>> thermite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>>
>>>
>>> sheetrock LOL
>>> Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>>> Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>>
>>Huh? What language is it that you claim to speak? You don't know what
>>sheetrock is? How about "drywall" - ever hear of that? Basically - it
>>is formed hardened gypsum sandwiched between layers of heavy paper -
>>usually in 4 foot by either 8 foot or 12 foot sections - and used as
>>quick and effective wall covering material. It can be purchased in
>>almost any home supply or hardware store - at least here in the US.
>>
>
> I suspect that this says more about the age of Grimly Fiendish and not
> his language skils.
>

As i was taught and learnt proper English and not that abomination of
English that Americans call English ?

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:07:01 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>
>As i was taught and learnt proper English and not that abomination of
>English that Americans call English ?

The Problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. It not only
borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other
languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled
their pockets for new vocabulary. ~ James Nicoll


"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

[Grimly Fiendish]

"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
news:ad-***@comcast.com...
> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>
>> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>>
>>> In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>> The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:***@4ax.com...
>>>>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>>>>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
>>>>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In article
>>>>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
>>>>> can >>>>>>> >>> be
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by
>>>>> scientists or
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature
>>>>> since >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
>>>>> that >>>>>>> >> have
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone
>>>>> could >>>>>>> >be so
>>>>> >>>>>>> >certain
>>>>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate,
>>>>> nor >>>>>>> >how
>>>>> >>>>>>> >someone
>>>>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless
>>>>> they >>>>>>> >are
>>>>> >>>>>>> part of >the
>>>>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
>>>>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very
>>>>> little if >>>>>>> >any
>>>>> >>>>>>> in >the
>>>>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment
>>>>> ignored >>>>>>> >or
>>>>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
>>>>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
>>>>> extremely >>>>>>> >dumb,
>>>>> >>>>>>> a >troll
>>>>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
>>>>> >>>>>>> >belief in
>>>>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
>>>>> that >>>>>>> were
>>>>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
>>>>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
>>>>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
>>>>> >>>>>>> seeing
>>>>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
>>>>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
>>>>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and
>>>>> all >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
>>>>> WTC. >>>>>>> All
>>>>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
>>>>> man-made
>>>>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
>>>>> >>>>>>> noise".
>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing
>>>>> consistent >>>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to
>>>>> operate >>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag.
>>>>> Nobody >>>>>>> saw
>>>>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
>>>>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> plane
>>>>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
>>>>> over >>>>>>> it
>>>>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
>>>>> >>>>>>> recovered and
>>>>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
>>>>> is >>>>>>> a
>>>>> >>>>>>> lie,
>>>>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
>>>>> >>>>>>> Movement"
>>>>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with
>>>>> any of >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
>>>>> would >>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton
>>>>> of >>>>>>> TNT,
>>>>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing
>>>>> a >>>>>>> tower
>>>>> >>>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate
>>>>> >>>>>> cretins.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
>>>>> >>>>> ineducated
>>>>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
>>>>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an >>>>
>>>>> uneducated
>>>>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
>>>>> >>>> Depending
>>>>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
>>>>> >>>> actually is
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
>>>>> The >>>> mere
>>>>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the >>>>
>>>>> evolution of
>>>>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs
>>>>> of >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
>>>>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city
>>>>> dialects. >>>> While
>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is
>>>>> understandable >>>> (and
>>>>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
>>>>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
>>>>> >>>> intelligence
>>>>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis -
>>>>> one >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> has
>>>>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
>>>>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently
>>>>> succumbed >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
>>>>> >>>> nearest
>>>>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
>>>>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>> >> clean
>>>>> >> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
>>>>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
>>>>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
>>>>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
>>>>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
>>>>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
>>>>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
>>>>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
>>>>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
>>>>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
>>>>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
>>>>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
>>>>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
>>>>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
>>>>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
>>>>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
>>>>> Papists?
>>>>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
>>>>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
>>>>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
>>>>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
>>>>> clean end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
>>>> Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
>>>> the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
>>>> hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
>>>> grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
>>>> thermite.
>>>>
>>>> Of course i may be wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
>>> of sheetrock in WTC.
>>>
>>
>> sheetrock LOL
>> Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
>> Why don't you use some words that sound a bit more plausible/realistic.
>
> Huh? What language is it that you claim to speak? You don't know what
> sheetrock is? How about "drywall" - ever hear of that? Basically - it is
> formed hardened gypsum sandwiched between layers of heavy paper - usually
> in 4 foot by either 8 foot or 12 foot sections - and used as quick and
> effective wall covering material. It can be purchased in almost any home
> supply or hardware store - at least here in the US.
>

For fucks sake are you all this dense ?
Why the fuck would anybody but an American know what Sheetrock is, do you
know what Blue Circle is ?
And whilst we are at it, why don't you capitalise Sheetrock as it should be
because it is a name.
Drywall, yes as i said in a previous post i've heard it used here, but we
call it dry lining mostly.

[h***@hotmail.com]

[Grimly Fiendish]

<hot-ham-and-***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:***@c30g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 11, 11:45 am, "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK>
wrote:
> "Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fh73tn$gm2$***@panix5.panix.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <***@v2g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > The Seventh Sign <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Nov 10, 3:29 pm, Gunner Asch <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:17:04 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
>
> >>> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> >>> >"Gunner Asch" <***@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>> >news:***@4ax.com...
> >>> >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:31:09 -0000, "Grimly Fiendish"
> >>> >> <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> >>> >>>"bob" <***@sss.net> wrote in message
> >>> >>>news:l6-***@comcast.com...
> >>> >>>> Grimly Fiendish wrote:
>
> >>> >>>>> "Autymn D. C." <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>> >>>>>news:***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> >>>>>> On Sep 6, 6:43 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> >>> >>>>>>> In article
> >>> >>>>>>> <46dfb2c7$0$47138$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
>
> >>> >>>>>>> Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
> >>> >>>>>>> ><***@krl.org> wrote in message
> >>> >>>>>>> >news:***@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>> >>>>>>> >> On Sep 5, 9:03 pm, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Where did his samples come from?
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> When did he get them?
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> has any independant lab tested the sample?
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper,
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> allegedly
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> "peer
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> can
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> be
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> or
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> are fact-checked.)
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> --
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since
> >>> >>>>>>> >>> 2001
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >> It is pointless to try using facts and logic with those
> >>> >>>>>>> >> that
> >>> >>>>>>> >> have
> >>> >>>>>>> >> already made up their minds.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >> Dan
>
> >>> >>>>>>> >I agree, i cannot possibly begin to imagine how someone could
> >>> >>>>>>> >be so
> >>> >>>>>>> >certain
> >>> >>>>>>> >that the flakey goverment report is correct and accurate, nor
> >>> >>>>>>> >how
> >>> >>>>>>> >someone
> >>> >>>>>>> >could be so willing to believe their government, Unless they
> >>> >>>>>>> >are
> >>> >>>>>>> part of >the
> >>> >>>>>>> >government or a troll.
> >>> >>>>>>> >When you look at the evidence (of which there is very little
> >>> >>>>>>> >if
> >>> >>>>>>> >any
> >>> >>>>>>> in >the
> >>> >>>>>>> >government reports) and you consider that the goverment
> >>> >>>>>>> >ignored
> >>> >>>>>>> >or
> >>> >>>>>>> >destroyed
> >>> >>>>>>> >much of the evidence, you would have to brainwashed,
> >>> >>>>>>> >extremely
> >>> >>>>>>> >dumb,
> >>> >>>>>>> a >troll
> >>> >>>>>>> >or unwilling to admit you could be wrong to keep ADs 100%
> >>> >>>>>>> >belief in
> >>> >>>>>>> it >up.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> Thousands of eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11 saw things
> >>> >>>>>>> that
> >>> >>>>>>> were
> >>> >>>>>>> consistant with PM and the "Standard Story" and contrary to
> >>> >>>>>>> Twoofer
> >>> >>>>>>> claims. There are no such eyewitnesses that claim they saw a
> >>> >>>>>>> commercial jet fly low over the Pentagon and leave, or claim
> >>> >>>>>>> seeing
> >>> >>>>>>> man-made explosives or molten steel on the pile at WTC.
> >>> >>>>>>> Contrary to
> >>> >>>>>>> Twoofer lies, 95% of FLt93's parts have been recovered and all
> >>> >>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>> passengers have been identified via DNA.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses to "molten metal" on the pile at
> >>> >>>>>>> WTC.
> >>> >>>>>>> All
> >>> >>>>>>> the stories turn out to be second-hand when researched.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> There are no eyewitnesses that say they saw evidence of
> >>> >>>>>>> man-made
> >>> >>>>>>> explosives at WTC. "explosion" is just a good word for "loud
> >>> >>>>>>> noise".
> >>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explosions as loud as the 1993 bombing consistent
> >>> >>>>>>> with
> >>> >>>>>>> the video of the collapse. Thermite takes minutes to operate
> >>> >>>>>>> and
> >>> >>>>>>> produces voluminous white light, white smoke and slag. Nobody
> >>> >>>>>>> saw
> >>> >>>>>>> light and smoke prior to the collapse. Nobody found the slag,
> >>> >>>>>>> afterwords.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> At the Pentagon, There are hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw
> >>> >>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>> plane
> >>> >>>>>>> approach the building low and fast. Nobody saw that jet fly
> >>> >>>>>>> over
> >>> >>>>>>> it
> >>> >>>>>>> and leave. Many of them saw it crash.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> In PA, 95% of the aircraft debris of Flight 93 has been
> >>> >>>>>>> recovered and
> >>> >>>>>>> identified as have DNA samples of all the passengers.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> Every quote of a NY fireman provided by the "Truth Movement"
> >>> >>>>>>> is
> >>> >>>>>>> a
> >>> >>>>>>> lie,
> >>> >>>>>>> edited and out of context and without citation. The "Truth
> >>> >>>>>>> Movement"
> >>> >>>>>>> censors information that contradicts Truthy claims.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> Nobody heard explsions of size and timing consistant with any
> >>> >>>>>>> of
> >>> >>>>>>> the
> >>> >>>>>>> collapses of any of the buildings at WTC. The explosions
> >>> >>>>>>> would
> >>> >>>>>>> have
> >>> >>>>>>> been larger and louder than the 1993 bomb (about half a ton of
> >>> >>>>>>> TNT,
> >>> >>>>>>> equiv) which everyone hear and didn't come close to bringing a
> >>> >>>>>>> tower
> >>> >>>>>>> down.
>
> >>> >>>>>>> --
> >>> >>>>>>> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
> >>> >>>>>>> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
> >>> >>>>>> Good job, Al. Let's napalm these delusional, ineducate
> >>> >>>>>> cretins.
>
> >>> >>>>>> truthe > truth
>
> >>> >>>>> ineducate ?? Try ineducated, or better still uneducated, or is
> >>> >>>>> ineducated
> >>> >>>>> another case of US misspelling of English ?
> >>> >>>> That is the essence of your rebuttal? Grimly - you are an
> >>> >>>> uneducated
> >>> >>>> cretin. There are many English dialects and local variations.
> >>> >>>> Depending
> >>> >>>> on their genesis, a word like "ineducate" (whether or not it
> >>> >>>> actually is
> >>> >>>> a
> >>> >>>> word" could easily be seen to be used much like "illiterate".
> >>> >>>> The
> >>> >>>> mere
> >>> >>>> misconstruction of an adjective and a participle are not causes
> >>> >>>> for
> >>> >>>> condemneation - they are rather opportunities to study the
> >>> >>>> evolution of
> >>> >>>> language. In this case, language is modified to fit the needs of
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> >>>> speaker or the population - much like the widely accepted process
> >>> >>>> producing "ghetto speak" or "jive" or black inner city dialects.
> >>> >>>> While
> >>> >>>> I
> >>> >>>> find them horrible to listen to, their genesis is understandable
> >>> >>>> (and
> >>> >>>> simultaneously harmful).
> >>> >>>> In your case, however - with your demonstrated regression of
> >>> >>>> intelligence
> >>> >>>> and willingness to sign on to a completely false hypothesis - one
> >>> >>>> that
> >>> >>>> has
> >>> >>>> been PROVEN to be false - in your case, it is devolution that is
> >>> >>>> happening. Were the process to which you have currently
> >>> >>>> succumbed
> >>> >>>> to
> >>> >>>> continue, it won't be long before we will find you populating the
> >>> >>>> nearest
> >>> >>>> tree and living on fruits and insects.
>
> >>> >>>Fuck off stalker.
>
> >>> >> I believe the chap finally had his single neuron insulted.
> >>> >> Truth can never be an insult laddy boyo..
>
> >>> >> Gunner
>
> >>> >> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
> >>> >> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
> >>> >> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
> >>> >> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
> >>> >> clean
> >>> >> end.
>
> >>> >Ah another sock or is scarecrow coming here ?
>
> >>> Actually laddy boyo..Im just a fellow who has more than the few feeble
> >>> synapes you seem to posess, who hangs one of his hats on one of the
> >>> newsgroups you crossposted into, the welding newsgroup. Since I
> >>> promised one of the gurus of that group Id not bitchslap the clueless
> >>> there, Ive removed it from your crosspost list, and substituted
> >>> another more proper, and better equipped to witness your humiliation
> >>> and buffoonery. misc.survivalism. We in MS applaud the degredation
> >>> of those conspiracy wackos we call Truthers.
>
> >>> So its with great glee that Ive now opened a new battle front, one on
> >>> which, you will be flayed mercillessly and your still twitching corpus
> >>> hung on a pike for all to see. But have heart..there are a couple
> >>> Truthers who hang out here as well...so they perhaps will chine in and
> >>> give you some moral support. God knows they are incapable of giving
> >>> you any intellectual support...but then...intelligence is neither
> >>> their strong suite, nor yours.
>
> >>> So Fruitloop...how much C-4 did it take to ignite all that thermite in
> >>> the WTC? And was it supplied by Carl Rove, the Illuminati, the
> >>> Trilateralists or was it a combined operation of the Masons and the
> >>> Papists?
> >>> Or perhaps a Grey mothership used a forceray?
>
> >>> Gunner
>
> >>> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
> >>> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
> >>> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
> >>> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the
> >>> clean
> >>> end.
>
> >>I have always thought the temperature of the fire melted the aluminum
> >>Computer cases and made improvised thermite. The fires were hot enough
> >>the type of material was hot enough the type of material battery acid
> >>hydraulic fluid etc was plentiful it was a recipie for a commercial
> >>grade thermite flare up. i do not think c4 was needed to start the
> >>thermite.
>
> >>Of course i may be wrong.
>
> > There is a suprising amount of sulfer in sheetrock and there was lots
> > of sheetrock in WTC.
>
> sheetrock LOL
> Since when did a rock look like a sheet LOL
> Why don't you ...
>
> read more »

Since when did a Bugle look like a Rifle?

MMMMMmmmmmmmmmm hot-ham-and-cheese

[Gunner]

On 5 Sep 2007 16:03:54 -0400, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:

>>for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>>through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>>
>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>>
>
>Where did his samples come from?
>
>When did he get them?
>
>Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>
>has any independant lab tested the sample?
>
>I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>are fact-checked.)


Blink blink....highly specialized compound??????

Iron and aluminum is "highly specialized"?????

Gunner

[Frogwatch]

On Sep 7, 5:15 am, Gunner <***@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2007 16:03:54 -0400, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
>
>
> >>for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> >>through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> >>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>
> >Where did his samples come from?
>
> >When did he get them?
>
> >Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>
> >has any independant lab tested the sample?
>
> >I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
> >reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
> >fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
> >are fact-checked.)
>
> Blink blink....highly specialized compound??????
>
> Iron and aluminum is "highly specialized"?????
>
> Gunner

I AM an expert on x-ray spectrometry and I assure you that there is no
way that it could be used to ID Thermite. From WTC debris, you would
find Al, Mg, Fe and many other spectral lines, none of which is
uniquely associated with thermite.

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Frogwatch" <***@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:***@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 7, 5:15 am, Gunner <***@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On 5 Sep 2007 16:03:54 -0400, ***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >>for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>> >>through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>>
>> >>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>>
>> >Where did his samples come from?
>>
>> >When did he get them?
>>
>> >Has he published the full report from hs lab?
>>
>> >has any independant lab tested the sample?
>>
>> >I'm not going to watch a video. Where is the paper, allegedly "peer
>> >reviewed, I'm sure. Real scientists publish papers that can be
>> >fact-checked. (not all papers are published by scientists or
>> >are fact-checked.)
>>
>> Blink blink....highly specialized compound??????
>>
>> Iron and aluminum is "highly specialized"?????
>>
>> Gunner
>
> I AM an expert on x-ray spectrometry and I assure you that there is no
> way that it could be used to ID Thermite. From WTC debris, you would
> find Al, Mg, Fe and many other spectral lines, none of which is
> uniquely associated with thermite.
>

But what about quantities ?

[Gunner]

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:09:06 +0100, "Grimly Fiendish"
<***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:

>> I AM an expert on x-ray spectrometry and I assure you that there is no
>> way that it could be used to ID Thermite. From WTC debris, you would
>> find Al, Mg, Fe and many other spectral lines, none of which is
>> uniquely associated with thermite.
>>
>
>But what about quantities ?


Several million tons

Gunner

[dlzc]

Dear Jim34:

On Sep 5, 12:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray
> spectrometry evidence from samples taken at
> the WTC site. They dramatically show a
> PERFECT MATCH for the highly specialized
> compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> through steel) found in the WTC debris.

Thermite is used for cutting through steel.
Thermate is a military-grade explosive.
You have now made reference to both. Which is it?

Thermite is comprised entirely of rust, aluminum and magnesium. All
of which can be found in a 40year old concrete structure (oxidized
iron) hit by a commerical aircraft (aluminum and magnesium).

But I waste breath on you.

David A. Smith

[Grimly Fiendish]

"dlzc" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
news:***@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Jim34:
>
> On Sep 5, 12:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray
>> spectrometry evidence from samples taken at
>> the WTC site. They dramatically show a
>> PERFECT MATCH for the highly specialized
>> compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>> through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> Thermite is used for cutting through steel.
> Thermate is a military-grade explosive.
> You have now made reference to both. Which is it?
>
> Thermite is comprised entirely of rust, aluminum and magnesium. All
> of which can be found in a 40year old concrete structure (oxidized
> iron) hit by a commerical aircraft (aluminum and magnesium).
>
> But I waste breath on you.
>

Concrete - oxidized iron, you have now made reference to both, which is it?
:-)
The fact that there may have been been small traces of the above present any
way cannot be used to disscount the thermite theory being as they would be
present if thermate had been used, that is just stupid logic. If thermate
had been used there would be much higher levels of these compounds present
and they would be more localised, the government have basicaly said that
because there might be traces of the above present anyway that they will not
check this out (convenient ?).
It is just another flakey bit of assumption to excuse the possible real
reason for the collapse.
It would be easy to acertain wether the levels of the above compounds were
minute traces from the plane (or even from the plane at all) or wether they
were from thermate used.

[dlzc]

Dear Grimly Fiendish:

On Sep 6, 1:08 am, "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK>
wrote:
> "dlzc" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:***@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Dear Jim34:
>
> > On Sep 5, 12:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray
> >> spectrometry evidence from samples taken at
> >> the WTC site. They dramatically show a
> >> PERFECT MATCH for the highly specialized
> >> compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> >> through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> > Thermite is used for cutting through steel.
> > Thermate is a military-grade explosive.
> > You have now made reference to both. Which is it?
>
> > Thermite is comprised entirely of rust, aluminum
> > and magnesium. All of which can be found in a
> > 40year old concrete structure (oxidized iron) hit
> > by a commerical aircraft (aluminum and magnesium).
>
> > But I waste breath on you.
>
> Concrete - oxidized iron, you have now made
> reference to both, which is it?
> :-)

Both. Concrete floors and some supports, lots of iron with the
requisite oxide layer.

> The fact that there may have been been small traces
> of the above present any way cannot be used to
> disscount the thermite theory being as they would be
> present if thermate had been used,

Thermite or thermate, which is it? They are not the same.

> that is just stupid logic. If thermate had been used
> there would be much higher levels of these
> compounds present and they would be more
> localised, the government have basicaly said that
> because there might be traces of the above present
> anyway that they will not check this out (convenient ?).

No, but it is a perfect opportunity for someone like yourself to
posture and strut how much they don't know, especially about
forensics.

Some people were there on that day, and knew that government was
incapable of doing anything. It was the raw guts and nerve of those
that survived that carried the day, saved the lives that could be
saved, and started the system moving such that government *could*
function.

Your efforts and opinions are merely silly, on this topic.

David A. Smith

[Grimly Fiendish]

"dlzc" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
news:***@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Grimly Fiendish:
>
> On Sep 6, 1:08 am, "Grimly Fiendish" <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK>
> wrote:
>> "dlzc" <***@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:***@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Dear Jim34:
>>
>> > On Sep 5, 12:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray
>> >> spectrometry evidence from samples taken at
>> >> the WTC site. They dramatically show a
>> >> PERFECT MATCH for the highly specialized
>> >> compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>> >> through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>>
>> > Thermite is used for cutting through steel.
>> > Thermate is a military-grade explosive.
>> > You have now made reference to both. Which is it?
>>
>> > Thermite is comprised entirely of rust, aluminum
>> > and magnesium. All of which can be found in a
>> > 40year old concrete structure (oxidized iron) hit
>> > by a commerical aircraft (aluminum and magnesium).
>>
>> > But I waste breath on you.
>>
>> Concrete - oxidized iron, you have now made
>> reference to both, which is it?
>> :-)
>
> Both. Concrete floors and some supports, lots of iron with the
> requisite oxide layer.
>
>> The fact that there may have been been small traces
>> of the above present any way cannot be used to
>> disscount the thermite theory being as they would be
>> present if thermate had been used,
>
> Thermite or thermate, which is it? They are not the same.
>
>> that is just stupid logic. If thermate had been used
>> there would be much higher levels of these
>> compounds present and they would be more
>> localised, the government have basicaly said that
>> because there might be traces of the above present
>> anyway that they will not check this out (convenient ?).
>
> No, but it is a perfect opportunity for someone like yourself to
> posture and strut how much they don't know, especially about
> forensics.
>
> Some people were there on that day, and knew that government was
> incapable of doing anything. It was the raw guts and nerve of those
> that survived that carried the day, saved the lives that could be
> saved, and started the system moving such that government *could*
> function.
>
> Your efforts and opinions are merely silly, on this topic.
>

And you are a pillock.

[Martin H. Eastburn]

Just when did this Professor do his test ? As dust was still falling
or months later in a junk yard with cut off beams or in the bottom
where the beams were cut out ...

Give it up.
Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Jim34 wrote:
> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
> samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
> for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>
>
> Look into it further:
>
> Watch 9/11 Mysteries:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536
>
> Visit Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:
> http://www.ae911truth.org/
>

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[Mexico]

For a moment I though he meant termites had demolished the WTC. Shoud be
someone who could give us the evidence that in fact those little animals had
been causing problems for years, weakening the main structure of the towers
:-)

[Martin H. Eastburn]

THey do that in Oakland - eating the cement docks that ported
the ships from Taiwan where the cement termites live.

Maybe on the foundation... but steel - not yet.
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
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Mexico wrote:
> For a moment I though he meant termites had demolished the WTC. Shoud be
> someone who could give us the evidence that in fact those little animals had
> been causing problems for years, weakening the main structure of the towers
> :-)
>
>

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[Grimly Fiendish]

"Martin H. Eastburn" <***@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> THey do that in Oakland - eating the cement docks that ported
> the ships from Taiwan where the cement termites live.
>
> Maybe on the foundation... but steel - not yet.
> Martin H. Eastburn
> @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
> TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
> NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
> IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
> http://lufkinced.com/
>
>
> Mexico wrote:
>> For a moment I though he meant termites had demolished the WTC. Shoud be
>> someone who could give us the evidence that in fact those little animals
>> had been causing problems for years, weakening the main structure of the
>> towers :-)
>
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Hmm, doesn't seem to have said anything that last poster ?

[Brian Whatcott]

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:57:44 -0700, Jim34
<***@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
>samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
>for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>through steel) found in the WTC debris.



I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
than that, I don't think?

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

[a***@googlemail.com]

On Sep 6, 12:39 pm, Brian Whatcott <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:57:44 -0700, Jim34
>
> <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
> >samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
> >for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> >through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
> be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
> steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
> than that, I don't think?
>
> Brian Whatcott Altus OK

The is video evidence:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk

Witness evidence:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE

and this physical X-ray Spectrometry evidence.

[Al Dykes]

In article <***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
<***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 6, 12:39 pm, Brian Whatcott <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:57:44 -0700, Jim34
>>
>> <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
>> >samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
>> >for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>> >through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>>
>> I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
>> be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
>> steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
>> than that, I don't think?
>>
>> Brian Whatcott Altus OK
>
>The is video evidence:
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
>
>Witness evidence:
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE


Re that video, none of the people quoted say they saw molten metal
first hand. There is no "proof". There are assertions that others with
relevant expertise find unconvincing if not downright flawed. AFAIK,
Jones has never relased teh entire lab report of the analysis of his
sample let alone let other labs test it.

Quoted in teh video, Robertson says he has no recollection of saying
what this video attributes to him. When checked, every claim of molten
metal turns out to be second hand and unverifiable.

"As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and
molten steel was still running."

This statement has been attributed to Leslie Robertson and used to
support some of the more unusual claims regarding the 9/11
attacks. I was wondering, is this statement correct, or could you
clarify it at all?

And a short time later, an email arrived from Leslie E Robertson himself:

I've no recollection of having made any such statements...nor
was I in a position to have the required knowledge.

http://www.911myths.com/html/leslie_robertson.html


--
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Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Al Dykes" <***@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fc0r2c$8c9$***@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
> <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>On Sep 6, 12:39 pm, Brian Whatcott <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:57:44 -0700, Jim34
>>>
>>> <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> >Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
>>> >samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
>>> >for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>>> >through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>>>
>>> I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
>>> be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
>>> steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
>>> than that, I don't think?
>>>
>>> Brian Whatcott Altus OK
>>
>>The is video evidence:
>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
>>
>>Witness evidence:
>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE
>
>
> Re that video, none of the people quoted say they saw molten metal
> first hand. There is no "proof". There are assertions that others with
> relevant expertise find unconvincing if not downright flawed. AFAIK,
> Jones has never relased teh entire lab report of the analysis of his
> sample let alone let other labs test it.
>
> Quoted in teh video, Robertson says he has no recollection of saying
> what this video attributes to him. When checked, every claim of molten
> metal turns out to be second hand and unverifiable.
>
> "As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and
> molten steel was still running."
>
> This statement has been attributed to Leslie Robertson and used to
> support some of the more unusual claims regarding the 9/11
> attacks. I was wondering, is this statement correct, or could you
> clarify it at all?
>
> And a short time later, an email arrived from Leslie E Robertson
> himself:
>
> I've no recollection of having made any such statements...nor
> was I in a position to have the required knowledge.
>

Was that after the FBI had a quite word in his ear ?

[You]

In article <***@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
***@googlemail.com wrote:

> On Sep 6, 12:39 pm, Brian Whatcott <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:57:44 -0700, Jim34
> >
> > <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
> > >samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
> > >for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> > >through steel) found in the WTC debris.
> >
> > I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
> > be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
> > steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
> > than that, I don't think?
> >
> > Brian Whatcott Altus OK
>
> The is video evidence:
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
>
> Witness evidence:
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE
>
> and this physical X-ray Spectrometry evidence.
>

Your problem is, you are posting Third Hand Bullshit, that YOU, don't
understand, can't explain, and have no technical or insitutional
knowledge of. You think that Dr. Jones, because he has letters after
his name, MUST, understand, can eplain, and does have technical
knowledge of, which is a FALSE assumption on your part. Have you even
read Dr. Jones's resume, or any Papers he has published, prior to his
self appointed involvment in this issue?

Give us all a break, and just GO AWAY......

[Brian Whatcott]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:54:22 -0700,
***@googlemail.com wrote:

>> I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
>> be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
>> steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
>> than that, I don't think?
>>
>> Brian Whatcott Altus OK


>The is video evidence:
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk


Er... this is a picture of a fire in a corner of a WTC floor,
with flaming particles falling.
This is video evidence of WHAT again? A fire?

>Witness evidence:
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE
>

Er... eyewitnesses reported a smouldering fire at ground level
days or weeks later: is that the evidence you had in mind?
A big kerosene fire set light to plenty of flammable material.
Firefighters are accustomed to fires smoulddering for days.
Where's the beef?


>and this physical X-ray Spectrometry evidence.


Oh yes, quite!

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

[Grimly Fiendish]

"Brian Whatcott" <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:54:22 -0700,
> ***@googlemail.com wrote:
>
>>> I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
>>> be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
>>> steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
>>> than that, I don't think?
>>>
>>> Brian Whatcott Altus OK
>
>
>>The is video evidence:
>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
>
>
> Er... this is a picture of a fire in a corner of a WTC floor,
> with flaming particles falling.
> This is video evidence of WHAT again? A fire?
>
>>Witness evidence:
>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE
>>
>
> Er... eyewitnesses reported a smouldering fire at ground level
> days or weeks later: is that the evidence you had in mind?
> A big kerosene fire set light to plenty of flammable material.
> Firefighters are accustomed to fires smoulddering for days.
> Where's the beef?
>
>
>>and this physical X-ray Spectrometry evidence.
>
>
> Oh yes, quite!
>

I blame people for leaving those boxes of matches lying around, that's where
the sulphur came from init?

[Todd Rich]

In sci.engr.joining.welding Grimly Fiendish <***@sexfiend.fsnot.co.youk> wrote:

> "Brian Whatcott" <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
(snip)
> >>and this physical X-ray Spectrometry evidence.
> >
> >
> > Oh yes, quite!
> >

> I blame people for leaving those boxes of matches lying around, that's where
> the sulphur came from init?

Gee, you seem to have missed this post:

Message-ID: <***@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>

Where it says in part:

]Where do you get sulfur?
]
]Ingredient
]Gypsum (calcium sulfate) Wt. % 60- 100
]Silica, crystalline, quartz Wt. % 0.1- 1
]
]Oh, wait, it's gypsum board, drywall, it's got a high concentration of
]sulfur.
]
]So, you melt together common building and airplane metals which have a
]lowered eutectic when put together (aluminum and iron), and add in the
]crap like drywall and the like which provides a source of Sulfur. Add
]in common wiring materials which have copper in them. This guy has
]got nothing but the presence of some of the most common materials
]you'd expect to find. He got 2 charts that looked the same, and his
]"anti" proof is that plain steel looks different. "Well Duh".

Gee, seems to be quite a bit of Sulfur available there....

[Al Dykes]

In article <46e4efcc$0$47121$***@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Grimly Fiendish <***@Sexfiend.fsnot.co.youK> wrote:
>
>"Brian Whatcott" <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:***@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:54:22 -0700,
>> ***@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm not much on conspiracy theorists. Could the material in question
>>>> be Thermite? This highly specialized material is comprised of
>>>> steel rust, and aluminum powder. It doesn't get much more specialized
>>>> than that, I don't think?
>>>>
>>>> Brian Whatcott Altus OK
>>
>>
>>>The is video evidence:
>>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk
>>
>>
>> Er... this is a picture of a fire in a corner of a WTC floor,
>> with flaming particles falling.
>> This is video evidence of WHAT again? A fire?
>>
>>>Witness evidence:
>>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE
>>>
>>
>> Er... eyewitnesses reported a smouldering fire at ground level
>> days or weeks later: is that the evidence you had in mind?
>> A big kerosene fire set light to plenty of flammable material.
>> Firefighters are accustomed to fires smoulddering for days.
>> Where's the beef?
>>
>>
>>>and this physical X-ray Spectrometry evidence.
>>
>>
>> Oh yes, quite!
>>
>
>I blame people for leaving those boxes of matches lying around, that's where
>the sulphur came from init?
>

Sheetrock has so much sulphur in it that gardners recycle it into
their garden if the soil needs it.


--
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Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001

[dizum]

Why don't you people shut-up?

Your government told you WTC towers and Building 7 collapsed because of the
attack by 19 Hijackers, so take it and STFU. Your government knows the best.
Your government knows what is good for you and your children, what you can
eat, what you can drink, what you can watch, what you can listen, what you
can say and what you can do...

Take it or you will become an enemy of the United States. That will get you
on black list and into the Guantanamo Bay Cuba "recreation" camp.

Your government passed "The Patriot Act" so beware! If you are not Patriot
or for that mater too much patriot, you will become an enemy of the state.
Read it! Your "elected officials" did not! They just voted for it, so you
and your miniscule brothers and sisters obey the law or else!

Listen to the government. Obey your government. Serve your government. If
you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear. We are the government and
we come in peace.

**********I say, George Orwell described today's United States in his book
1984. You do not believe it? Read it. Or STFU.

On the other side, if you trust your government, you must be retarded or
educated in indoctrination stations called public education schools of
United States.

Yours truly,
#1 Enemy of the State

P.S.
For you from Rio Linda, California, I tried to be sarcastic.

[N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)]

"dizum" <***@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:df0Ei.31994$***@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> Why don't you people shut-up?
>
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...
> ... government ...

This picture makes more sense than this entire concept of yours.
http://www.randomimage.us/17992.html

David A. Smith

[Ignoramus7495]

I have played with thermite (and have about 2 more lbs left). I do not
believe that it could be used practically to cut beams that are
encased in concrete, flooring etc. Especially vertical beams.

i

[Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen]

I agree. It's much more suitable for welding than for cutting, you would
need a massive amount of it to cut throuch a mass of concrete and
steel. It could certainly be used to start a fire, but so could an
airliner full of fuel...

>>>>> "I" == Ignoramus7495 <***@NOSPAM.7495.invalid> writes:

I> I have played with thermite (and have about 2 more lbs left). I do not
I> believe that it could be used practically to cut beams that are
I> encased in concrete, flooring etc. Especially vertical beams.

I> i

--
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[Ignoramus18849]

On 07 Sep 2007 17:56:37 +0200, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen <ole-***@substitute_employer_here.com> wrote:
> I agree. It's much more suitable for welding than for cutting, you would
> need a massive amount of it to cut throuch a mass of concrete and
> steel. It could certainly be used to start a fire, but so could an
> airliner full of fuel...

Cutting a horizontal or vertical I-beam with thermite is very
difficult, due to thermite's tendency to just burn a hole under itself
and flow down. Could be used to start a fire, though a gasoline can
would be more practical.

i

>>>>>> "I" == Ignoramus7495 <***@NOSPAM.7495.invalid> writes:
>
> I> I have played with thermite (and have about 2 more lbs left). I do not
> I> believe that it could be used practically to cut beams that are
> I> encased in concrete, flooring etc. Especially vertical beams.
>
> I> i
>

[Brian Whatcott]

On 07 Sep 2007 17:56:37 +0200, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
<ole-***@substitute_employer_here.com> wrote:

>I agree. It's much more suitable for welding than for cutting, you would
>need a massive amount of it to cut throuch a mass of concrete and
>steel. It could certainly be used to start a fire, but so could an
>airliner full of fuel...
>
>>>>>> "I" == Ignoramus7495 <***@NOSPAM.7495.invalid> writes:
>
> I> I have played with thermite (and have about 2 more lbs left). I do not
> I> believe that it could be used practically to cut beams that are
> I> encased in concrete, flooring etc. Especially vertical beams.
>
> I> i

Sadly the steel tube beams [ugh!] holding up the concrete floor pads
of WTC were under the concrete not in the concrete - exposed and bare
in places - and could be cut using a step ladder and a hacksaw.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

[Martin H. Eastburn]

Remember attempt #1 and the blind Mula(sp) - tried to blow up some posts.
But it didn't work. Made a mess. Got them in jail.
Didn't work.

Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Brian Whatcott wrote:
> On 07 Sep 2007 17:56:37 +0200, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
> <ole-***@substitute_employer_here.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree. It's much more suitable for welding than for cutting, you would
>> need a massive amount of it to cut throuch a mass of concrete and
>> steel. It could certainly be used to start a fire, but so could an
>> airliner full of fuel...
>>
>>>>>>> "I" == Ignoramus7495 <***@NOSPAM.7495.invalid> writes:
>> I> I have played with thermite (and have about 2 more lbs left). I do not
>> I> believe that it could be used practically to cut beams that are
>> I> encased in concrete, flooring etc. Especially vertical beams.
>>
>> I> i
>
> Sadly the steel tube beams [ugh!] holding up the concrete floor pads
> of WTC were under the concrete not in the concrete - exposed and bare
> in places - and could be cut using a step ladder and a hacksaw.
>
> Brian Whatcott Altus OK

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[incitatus]

In every era there are people, for reasons that tend toward the
pathological, who see that their lives are as nothing compared to
"great forces". The "forces can be the government, the Jesuits,
the ... Jooos (an eternal favorite) in short, any group that the
madman is ignorant of. This behavior has been recorded thru history,
it is nothing new.

In any event, the amusing thing about this thread is the idea that
there was some sort of controlled explosion, a view that is really
remarkably stupid inasmuch as any visit to a company site that
actually does this for a living gives lie to the silly contentions.

I bumped into one CT who, in order to get around the obvious problems
involved in planting explosives, claimed (darkly) that they were
planted during the construction of the WTC.

hahahahhhahahahaaahahahahahahahahahaha

Anyway, perhaps some new flavor of madness will emerge here.

Carry on.

[jonceramic]

On Sep 5, 2:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
> samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
> for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>
> Look into it further:
>
> Watch 9/11 Mysteries:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536
>
> Visit Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:http://www.ae911truth.org/

Oh geez, the first chart is pitifully non-obvious. It's not a
"perfect match". The ratio's are way off. Just showing there is
aluminum, iron, and sulfur in both samples proves nothing. That's
like saying you found "carbon AND oxygen and Hydrogen And Nitrogen" in
air!!!! Where's his discussion of eutectics to get to melting
temperatures?

There's copper in one sample, and NO copper in the other.

Where do you get sulfur?

Ingredient
Gypsum (calcium sulfate) Wt. % 60- 100
Silica, crystalline, quartz Wt. % 0.1- 1

Oh, wait, it's gypsum board, drywall, it's got a high concentration of
sulfur.

So, you melt together common building and airplane metals which have a
lowered eutectic when put together (aluminum and iron), and add in the
crap like drywall and the like which provides a source of Sulfur. Add
in common wiring materials which have copper in them. This guy has
got nothing but the presence of some of the most common materials
you'd expect to find. He got 2 charts that looked the same, and his
"anti" proof is that plain steel looks different. "Well Duh".

Zzzzzz.

This guy found some hollow sphere metallic dust with a little sulfur
in it. Zzzzzz.

The craziest part of this whole thing is.... if you're just going to
blow up a building, why bother to do the whole "plane thing"?

All these write-ups are based on the theory "since there was molten
metal, there had to be incindiary devices". So, for the moment, I'll
buy into the "fact" that there was molten metal.

So, here goes....

Here's the NIST's direct addressing of this stuff... What a cool
page. Directly addressing the FUD out there.
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

Importantly...
"7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers
weren't hot enough to do so?
OR
7b. Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700 degrees
Fahrenheit, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800
degrees Fahrenheit and Underwriters Laboratories (UL) certified the
steel in the WTC towers to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours, how
could fires have impacted the steel enough to bring down the WTC
towers?

In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due
to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees
Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and
hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about
1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported
maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius
(1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR
1, Figure 6-36).

However, when bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees
Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces to roughly 10 percent of
its room temperature value. Steel that is unprotected (e.g., if the
fireproofing is dislodged) can reach the air temperature within the
time period that the fires burned within the towers. Thus, yielding
and buckling of the steel members (floor trusses, beams, and both core
and exterior columns) with missing fireproofing were expected under
the fire intensity and duration determined by NIST for the WTC
towers.

UL did not certify any steel as suggested. In fact, in U.S. practice,
steel is not certified at all; rather structural assemblies are tested
for their fire resistance rating in accordance with a standard
procedure such as ASTM E 119 (see NCSTAR 1-6B). That the steel was
"certified ... to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours" is simply not
true."

----------------------------
Think I'm going to say "oh, the steel couldn't have melted". Nope.
I'm going to tell you it could have. And here's how you'd get it.
Especially the hollow spheres with sulfur. I'm not saying this
happened, but using the level of "science" and "logic" I see in the
WTC hoaxers, my explanation is just as plausible.

Key here is the statement that 1100C for normal building and jet fuel
fires.

Search the eutectic of aluminum + iron, and you'll find... tada...
liquid right in the 1100C range. And that's just for pure lab Fe/Al.
Start mixing in other compounds, and it will go lower.
See Fe/Al here...
http://www.thefabricator.com/Metallurgy/Metallurgy_Article.cfm?ID=676

See Fe/S here in a "pretend paper" (it reads like my sophomore or
junior level papers I wrote in college - who talks stoichiometry for
this stuff? This isn't analytical chemistry here... metals and
ceramics don't behave according to stoichiometry really, do they?)...
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JLobdillThermiteChemistryWTC

So, the known, expected temperatures were in the range expected for
iron + aluminum + sulfur to be liquid without needing thermite or
thermate or whatever. How do you get hollow spheres? Well, how about
the air blowing out from the collapsing building? It's all going to
be iron, aluminum, and dry wall - splattering everywhere.

Wow, that almost sounded scientific! LOL

Jon

[Booger]

On Sep 6, 11:43 pm, jonceramic <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 5, 2:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
> > samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
> > for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> > through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>
> > Look into it further:
>
> > Watch 9/11 Mysteries:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536
>
> > Visit Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:http://www.ae911truth.org/
>
> Oh geez, the first chart is pitifully non-obvious. It's not a
> "perfect match". The ratio's are way off. Just showing there is
> aluminum, iron, and sulfur in both samples proves nothing. That's
> like saying you found "carbon AND oxygen and Hydrogen And Nitrogen" in
> air!!!! Where's his discussion of eutectics to get to melting
> temperatures?
>
> There's copper in one sample, and NO copper in the other.
>
> Where do you get sulfur?
>
> Ingredient
> Gypsum (calcium sulfate) Wt. % 60- 100
> Silica, crystalline, quartz Wt. % 0.1- 1
>
> Oh, wait, it's gypsum board, drywall, it's got a high concentration of
> sulfur.
>
> So, you melt together common building and airplane metals which have a
> lowered eutectic when put together (aluminum and iron), and add in the
> crap like drywall and the like which provides a source of Sulfur. Add
> in common wiring materials which have copper in them. This guy has
> got nothing but the presence of some of the most common materials
> you'd expect to find. He got 2 charts that looked the same, and his
> "anti" proof is that plain steel looks different. "Well Duh".
>
> Zzzzzz.
>
> This guy found some hollow sphere metallic dust with a little sulfur
> in it. Zzzzzz.
>
> The craziest part of this whole thing is.... if you're just going to
> blow up a building, why bother to do the whole "plane thing"?
>
> All these write-ups are based on the theory "since there was molten
> metal, there had to be incindiary devices". So, for the moment, I'll
> buy into the "fact" that there was molten metal.
>
> So, here goes....
>
> Here's the NIST's direct addressing of this stuff... What a cool
> page. Directly addressing the FUD out there.http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
>
> Importantly...
> "7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers
> weren't hot enough to do so?
> OR
> 7b. Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700 degrees
> Fahrenheit, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800
> degrees Fahrenheit and Underwriters Laboratories (UL) certified the
> steel in the WTC towers to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours, how
> could fires have impacted the steel enough to bring down the WTC
> towers?
>
> In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due
> to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees
> Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and
> hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about
> 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported
> maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius
> (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR
> 1, Figure 6-36).
>
> However, when bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees
> Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces to roughly 10 percent of
> its room temperature value. Steel that is unprotected (e.g., if the
> fireproofing is dislodged) can reach the air temperature within the
> time period that the fires burned within the towers. Thus, yielding
> and buckling of the steel members (floor trusses, beams, and both core
> and exterior columns) with missing fireproofing were expected under
> the fire intensity and duration determined by NIST for the WTC
> towers.
>
> UL did not certify any steel as suggested. In fact, in U.S. practice,
> steel is not certified at all; rather structural assemblies are tested
> for their fire resistance rating in accordance with a standard
> procedure such as ASTM E 119 (see NCSTAR 1-6B). That the steel was
> "certified ... to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours" is simply not
> true."
>
> ----------------------------
> Think I'm going to say "oh, the steel couldn't have melted". Nope.
> I'm going to tell you it could have. And here's how you'd get it.
> Especially the hollow spheres with sulfur. I'm not saying this
> happened, but using the level of "science" and "logic" I see in the
> WTC hoaxers, my explanation is just as plausible.
>
> Key here is the statement that 1100C for normal building and jet fuel
> fires.
>
> Search the eutectic of aluminum + iron, and you'll find... tada...
> liquid right in the 1100C range. And that's just for pure lab Fe/Al.
> Start mixing in other compounds, and it will go lower.
> See Fe/Al here...http://www.thefabricator.com/Metallurgy/Metallurgy_Article.cfm?ID=676
>
> See Fe/S here in a "pretend paper" (it reads like my sophomore or
> junior level papers I wrote in college - who talks stoichiometry for
> this stuff? This isn't analytical chemistry here... metals and
> ceramics don't behave according to stoichiometry really, do they?)...http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JLobdillThermiteChem...
>
> So, the known, expected temperatures were in the range expected for
> iron + aluminum + sulfur to be liquid without needing thermite or
> thermate or whatever. How do you get hollow spheres? Well, how about
> the air blowing out from the collapsing building? It's all going to
> be iron, aluminum, and dry wall - splattering everywhere.
>
> Wow, that almost sounded scientific! LOL
>
> Jon

EXCELLENT POST!!!!!!!!!!! Go git um Jon.

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> On Sep 6, 11:43 pm, jonceramic <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 2:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
>> > samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
>> > for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
>> > through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>>
>> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>>
>> > Look into it further:
>>
>> > Watch 9/11
>> > Mysteries:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536
>>
>> > Visit Architects and Engineers for 9/11
>> > Truth:http://www.ae911truth.org/
>>
>> Oh geez, the first chart is pitifully non-obvious. It's not a
>> "perfect match". The ratio's are way off. Just showing there is
>> aluminum, iron, and sulfur in both samples proves nothing. That's
>> like saying you found "carbon AND oxygen and Hydrogen And Nitrogen" in
>> air!!!! Where's his discussion of eutectics to get to melting
>> temperatures?
>>
>> There's copper in one sample, and NO copper in the other.
>>
>> Where do you get sulfur?
>>
>> Ingredient
>> Gypsum (calcium sulfate) Wt. % 60- 100
>> Silica, crystalline, quartz Wt. % 0.1- 1
>>
>> Oh, wait, it's gypsum board, drywall, it's got a high concentration of
>> sulfur.
>>
>> So, you melt together common building and airplane metals which have a
>> lowered eutectic when put together (aluminum and iron), and add in the
>> crap like drywall and the like which provides a source of Sulfur. Add
>> in common wiring materials which have copper in them. This guy has
>> got nothing but the presence of some of the most common materials
>> you'd expect to find. He got 2 charts that looked the same, and his
>> "anti" proof is that plain steel looks different. "Well Duh".
>>
>> Zzzzzz.
>>
>> This guy found some hollow sphere metallic dust with a little sulfur
>> in it. Zzzzzz.
>>
>> The craziest part of this whole thing is.... if you're just going to
>> blow up a building, why bother to do the whole "plane thing"?
>>
>> All these write-ups are based on the theory "since there was molten
>> metal, there had to be incindiary devices". So, for the moment, I'll
>> buy into the "fact" that there was molten metal.
>>
>> So, here goes....
>>
>> Here's the NIST's direct addressing of this stuff... What a cool
>> page. Directly addressing the FUD out
>> there.http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
>>
>> Importantly...
>> "7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers
>> weren't hot enough to do so?
>> OR
>> 7b. Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700 degrees
>> Fahrenheit, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800
>> degrees Fahrenheit and Underwriters Laboratories (UL) certified the
>> steel in the WTC towers to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours, how
>> could fires have impacted the steel enough to bring down the WTC
>> towers?
>>
>> In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due
>> to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees
>> Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and
>> hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about
>> 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported
>> maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius
>> (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR
>> 1, Figure 6-36).
>>
>> However, when bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees
>> Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces to roughly 10 percent of
>> its room temperature value. Steel that is unprotected (e.g., if the
>> fireproofing is dislodged) can reach the air temperature within the
>> time period that the fires burned within the towers. Thus, yielding
>> and buckling of the steel members (floor trusses, beams, and both core
>> and exterior columns) with missing fireproofing were expected under
>> the fire intensity and duration determined by NIST for the WTC
>> towers.
>>
>> UL did not certify any steel as suggested. In fact, in U.S. practice,
>> steel is not certified at all; rather structural assemblies are tested
>> for their fire resistance rating in accordance with a standard
>> procedure such as ASTM E 119 (see NCSTAR 1-6B). That the steel was
>> "certified ... to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours" is simply not
>> true."
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> Think I'm going to say "oh, the steel couldn't have melted". Nope.
>> I'm going to tell you it could have. And here's how you'd get it.
>> Especially the hollow spheres with sulfur. I'm not saying this
>> happened, but using the level of "science" and "logic" I see in the
>> WTC hoaxers, my explanation is just as plausible.
>>
>> Key here is the statement that 1100C for normal building and jet fuel
>> fires.
>>
>> Search the eutectic of aluminum + iron, and you'll find... tada...
>> liquid right in the 1100C range. And that's just for pure lab Fe/Al.
>> Start mixing in other compounds, and it will go lower.
>> See Fe/Al
>> here...http://www.thefabricator.com/Metallurgy/Metallurgy_Article.cfm?ID=676
>>
>> See Fe/S here in a "pretend paper" (it reads like my sophomore or
>> junior level papers I wrote in college - who talks stoichiometry for
>> this stuff? This isn't analytical chemistry here... metals and
>> ceramics don't behave according to stoichiometry really, do
>> they?)...http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JLobdillThermiteChem...
>>
>> So, the known, expected temperatures were in the range expected for
>> iron + aluminum + sulfur to be liquid without needing thermite or
>> thermate or whatever. How do you get hollow spheres? Well, how about
>> the air blowing out from the collapsing building? It's all going to
>> be iron, aluminum, and dry wall - splattering everywhere.
>>
>> Wow, that almost sounded scientific! LOL
>>
>> Jon
>
> EXCELLENT POST!!!!!!!!!!! Go git um Jon.
>
Indeed. Very amusing

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On Sep 5, 3:57 pm, Jim34 <***@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Professor Steven Jones presenting his X-ray spectrometry evidence from
> samples taken at the WTC site. They dramatically show a PERFECT MATCH
> for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting
> through steel) found in the WTC debris.
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2vAupmooU
>
> Look into it further:
>
> Watch 9/11 Mysteries:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536
>
> Visit Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:http://www.ae911truth.org/

Uh, thermite is not a compound, it is a mix of powdered aluminum and
iron oxide. I'm not going to get excited because the WTC debris
contains aluminum and iron oxide. Or aluminum oxide and iron, the
products of the reaction.