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If i have hg2sb2o7 powder
How i can make it liquid..?
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I have done several experiments and only got the Hg2Sb2O7 powder. Can any of you help me turn it into liquid?
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
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If i have hg2sb2o7 powder
How i can make it liquid..?
Hi, I have mercury and antimony trioxide. I want to test it with oxygen twice, at a temperature of 500 degrees. If I get results, I will tell you.
If you could tell me
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Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron enriched
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Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
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Red mercury is coming back...
Undoubtly that's an hoax to protect other discovery and to work as
little
bells to each guy willing to speack about something they don't know.
An institute of St Petersburg has placed a patent in 1995 to produce
Hg2Sb2O7, good quality and stability (pyroantimoniate of mercury)...
This
patent has been published (not classified). Red-brown color...I
baught a
copy of this patent
to national Russian organisation for patents "SoyuzPatent", no
problem. I've
the translation in French if someone is interested I'm able to send
the
translation in French (you need to request it to my e-mail adress),
(easier
than Russian I suppose for a majority of this NG).
You gave the name of a guy been killed for that, he hasn't been
alone : in
1993 a plane sunk in Lugano's Lake at the boarder between Switzerland
and
Italy (5
persons...) Police concluded it was in connexion with a mafia deal
with Red
Mercury...
It was said company Promecologia in Ekaterinburg was the lonely
producer of
Hg2Sb2O7 under state license. I visited many times Ekaterinburg. This
company has fallen in bankruptcy some years ago.
Don't dream anymore about that.
A friend of mine, head of the Chair of inorganic chemistry in a
Russian
State University said : That's very dangerous for mice and rates...
Henri
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Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron
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Mercury which could be used to miniturise nuclear devices.
Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in
Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and
reports
surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously
verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record
concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure
none does
in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound,
Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If
you try
to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr.
Sleight's
report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll
come
to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-
brown
compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do
not
match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey
compound
with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which
provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications,
right
down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing
the
ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the
meta-
and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray
analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised
and
quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue
and
lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process
5 times
without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the
melting
surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs
onto
the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to
pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable
amalgam.
Steve Shires.
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Don't dream anymore about that.
By way of reply I should like to refer you to the introduction to
Part II of a book I have been writing since 1994 on this subject:-
'In April 1996 two things happened which gave new direction
to my researches into this compound. One was that a correspondent to
the ‘<dejanews>’ Internet website, Erick Singley, provided the
International Chemical Register (ICR) Number for it; 20720-76-7. The
other was that a book published in ’95, ‘The Mini-nuke Conspiracy’,
came to my attention. It contained the ICR number plus the name of the
chemist, Dr. Sleight, who had synthesized one or more allotropes of it
for the American explosives manufacturer Du Pont de Nemours, in ’68.
Using this information I easily found the chemical abstract (or note
concerning the experimental report) in volume 69 of the Chemical
Abstract Services’ (CAS) output, abstract number 71239v.
The description appearing against the ICR number would not
inspire much confidence in anyone unfamiliar with the one available
in ‘The Mini-nuke Conspiracy’, where it is described as ‘a mercury salt
of antimonic acid’:-
20720-76-7 Antimonic acid (H4Sb2O7 ), mercury (2+) salt (1:2)
H4O7 Sb2 .2Hg
However, anyone who had attempted to produce the compound
using reaction (2) on page 3 of Part I* would recognise the reactants
referred to. Unless they had a supply of oxygen available they would
also recall their observation of the ease with which mercury is
liberated from a compound when it is heated in solution. My own
experiences with this method were so disappointing that I did not even
include it in my test reports. The thing to remember about its
limitations is that they only obtain for the thermally unstable
allotropic forms of the compound. Another situation hardly calculated
to inspire confidence in the procedure is J.R. Partington’s reference
to antimonic and antimonious acids in his ‘Textbook of Inorganic
Chemistry’, where he states that their existence is ‘extremely
doubtful’. Antimonic acid’s formula appears against ‘Antimony
oxyhydrate’ in R.C. Weast’s ‘Handbook of Chemistry and Physics’.
Now, if the ICR description is considered inconclusive
what may be said of the one in the abstract? I had already examined the
CAS Subject Index for 1967-71 before April ’96 during the course of a
trawl through the service’s indices, looking for mercury salts of all
possible descriptions. The sought-after compound appeared as:-
mercury (2+) salt (1:2)[20720-76-7], crystal structure of,
69 :71239v '
* (2) 2HgO + H4Sb2O7 => Hg2Sb2O7 + H2O
Whatever else it may be, mercuric pyro-antimoniate is clearly not a
dream. As to the amalgam it produces when pressurized with mercury and
an actinide within a neutron-rich environment, this supposedly being
the means by which red mercury is produced, well, who knows?
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mercury (2+) salt (1:2)[20720-76-7], crystal structure of,
69 :71239v '
* (2) 2HgO + H4Sb2O7 => Hg2Sb2O7 + H2O
Whatever else it may be, mercuric pyro-antimoniate is clearly not a
dream. As to the amalgam it produces when pressurized with mercury
and
an actinide within a neutron-rich environment, this supposedly being
the means by which red mercury is produced, well, who knows?
Steve Shires.
There's another way to produce Hg2Sb2O7 discribed in the Russian
patent
2036149 placed by Mr A.E.Chirinsky working at Institute for
technological
simulation a Petersburg subsidiary of Russian Academy of science. This
patent having not been exented in validity elsewhere than Russia,
everybody
is able to use this process excepted in Russia where you need a
licence to
produce.
In fact Chirinsky uses acetic solution of mercury plus potassium
hydroxyde
in reaction with potassium hexahydroxyantimoniate.
In this patent the process described by W.Sleight is took as reference
for a
bad production of Hg2Sb2O7 and to prove the process described is a
real
invention.
The full text of the patent is for sale at : NPO Poďsk of Rospatent
113035
Moscow ,J-35, Raouchskaya nab, 4/5
Thanks v. much for your response. It wouldn't surprise me if Dr. Arthur
Sleight's experimental method really was flawed and I'm always keen on
finding out about different ways of combining antimony and mercury in a
double oxide. I tried different methods of achieving this for 14 years
before hearing about red mercury, due to my interest in chinese and
medieval european alchemy. Is the above address for the patent complete?
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the means by which red mercury is produced, well, who knows?
Steve Shires.
There's another way to produce Hg2Sb2O7 discribed in the Russian
patent
2036149 placed by Mr A.E.Chirinsky working at Institute for
technological
simulation a Petersburg subsidiary of Russian Academy of science. This
patent having not been exented in validity elsewhere than Russia,
everybody
is able to use this process excepted in Russia where you need a
licence to
The full text of the patent is for sale at : NPO Poďsk of Rospatent
113035
Moscow ,J-35, Raouchskaya nab, 4/5
Thanks v. much for your response. It wouldn't surprise me if Dr. Arthur
Sleight's experimental method really was flawed and I'm always keen on
finding out about different ways of combining antimony and mercury in a
double oxide. I tried different methods of achieving this for 14 years
before hearing about red mercury, due to my interest in chinese and
medieval european alchemy. Is the above address for the patent complete?
The above adress was right in 1996, things are moving so quikly in Russia
right now....
On that time I had a trouble to pay the patent due the fact the bank account
of Rospatent was cancelled in the West... One year later I've been able to
pay the amount of something near $40. In any case a patent attorney is able
to give you the right adress updated, bank account and so on. Delivery time
three days after the request by fax.
I hope you are reading Russian language. I proposed to send you a french
translation through e-mail. As you want.
For this patent you have to know : first requisition July 16th 1992, patent
delivered May 27th 1995.
If you are interested by old alchemia, there's new concepts running on cold
fusion and results are excellent. There's a junction between modern concepts
and old european alchemia. It depends what you are looking for. There's some
very good specialist in Italy, experiments are running through Berthollet's
powder, and experiments are running... Due to the fact a such powder is
involved, perhaps there's somebody in this newsgroup having other good
information.
Be sure red mercury has nothing to deal with alchemia and cold fusion, red
mercury is only an hoax.
Cold fusion and alchemia are running in the field of electrons, a new model
putting partially "off" Bohr's model of atom, but that's a too long story to
put on a NG.
You are thinking red mercury is running with neutrons, you are wrong.
When you will be successful to produce red mercury (no doubt you are a good
chemist), please send me 50 grams for my private collection of crazy
products without any use in my office show room, I've planty of other
things.
Henri Lehn
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First I would like to add and confirm this experiment has nothing to deal
with Hg2Sb2O7
Experiments are performed according to the receipe of Roberto A. Monti.
Italian citizen.
The cost of the gold produced is much more higher than the price of gold in
a bank...
Not possible to make a fortune with this receipe.
Mr Claude Berthollet (1748-1822) french citizen, chemist, has discovered
whitening properties of hypochlorites and prepared chlorates to be used in
powders, and he developped some new powders with chlorates.
He discovered composition of acids and bases and began together with Mr
Lavoisier to perform a classification of chemicals products. He gave the
basic rules of chemical reaction : salt + salt; acid+base, acid + salt...
He was comptemporary of Price but at my knowledge has never been in
Sweden...
To have Berthollet's powder you replace KNO3 in the gun powder by chlorate,
with necessary stoechiometirc adaptation.
At that time chemistry and alchemia weren't dissociated. The wellknown
experiment of Mr Lavoisier having determined the composition of the air
after having been boiling mercury during three weeks.. Mr Lavoisier wasn't
looking for air analysis, he was looking for something in the field of
alchemia..
The main advantage of alchemia is : Alchemia has always been a very good
engine to push guys to find something, to perform experiment and to try to
explain something.
Right now the "cold fusion" is the new name of alchemia.
Time to time cold fusion is working and we don't know all criterias (see US
Navy report, NAWCWPNS by Melvin Miles), time to time transmutation to gold
is successful (with the same ratio !!!) and we don't know why...One
experiment producing 0.605 g of gold may be considered as an excellent
result. The same experiment some weeks later and the result = zero may be
considered as : all parameters haven't been identified...
I understand absolutely how Price has been disappointed, but in any case I
don't want to take my life for a such reason.
Henri Lehn
If you are interested by old alchemia, there's new concepts running
on cold
fusion and results are excellent. There's a junction between modern
concepts
and old european alchemia. It depends what you are looking for.
There's some
very good specialist in Italy, experiments are running through
Berthollet's
powder, and experiments are running...
Thanks for the tip about Berthollet's Powder and the details available
in another message. The amount of gold involved, 0.6g, is reminiscent
of the amounts produced by one Dr. James Price, in 1782, during his
demonstration experiments in front of the Royal Society. These ranged
from 6 to 11 grains of gold, produced by the action of Price's 'red
powder' upon heated mercury. Later he transmuted mercury to yield 120
grains of gold as a presentation to George III, who was so impressed
that he ordered a regular gold supply from Price, to help with the war
effort. As anyone familiar with reports of the amounts of Philosopher's
Stone created by any one alchemist and the few grams of gold generated
in the course of a typical transmutation can testify, the king's
expectations were completely unrealistic and led to Price's suicide.
The official account of his demonstrations before the Royal Society is
available at <http.www.levity.com/alchemy/dr_price.html>. Incidentally,
wasn't Berthollet a celebrated Swedish chemist in the early 1800's,
which would make him a near contemporary of Price?
Regards, Steve.
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First I would like to add and confirm this experiment has nothing to
deal
with Hg2Sb2O7
Experiments are performed according to the receipe of Roberto A.
Monti.
Italian citizen.
The cost of the gold produced is much more higher than the price of
gold in
a bank...
Not possible to make a fortune with this receipe.
Mr Claude Berthollet (1748-1822) french citizen, chemist, has
discovered
whitening properties of hypochlorites and prepared chlorates to be
used in
powders, and he developped some new powders with chlorates.
He discovered composition of acids and bases and began together with
Mr
Lavoisier to perform a classification of chemicals products. He gave
the
basic rules of chemical reaction : salt + salt; acid+base, acid +
salt...
He was comptemporary of Price but at my knowledge has never been in
Sweden...
To have Berthollet's powder you replace KNO3 in the gun powder by
chlorate,
with necessary stoechiometirc adaptation.
At that time chemistry and alchemia weren't dissociated. The wellknown
experiment of Mr Lavoisier having determined the composition of the
air
after having been boiling mercury during three weeks.. Mr Lavoisier
wasn't
looking for air analysis, he was looking for something in the field of
alchemia..
The main advantage of alchemia is : Alchemia has always been a very
good
engine to push guys to find something, to perform experiment and to
try to
explain something.
Right now the "cold fusion" is the new name of alchemia.
Time to time cold fusion is working and we don't know all criterias
(see US
Navy report, NAWCWPNS by Melvin Miles), time to time transmutation to
gold
is successful (with the same ratio !!!) and we don't know why...One
experiment producing 0.605 g of gold may be considered as an excellent
result. The same experiment some weeks later and the result = zero
may be
considered as : all parameters haven't been identified...
I understand absolutely how Price has been disappointed, but in any
case I
don't want to take my life for a such reason.
Henri Lehn
Thanks for the additional info. The combination for Berthollet's Powder
that you describe, KClO3 + C + S, looks as if it could have figured in
Berthollet and Lavoisier's experiments in the 1780's, particularly the
demonstration involving chlorate in which two daughters of french
government officials were killed. Lavoisier seems to have eclipsed his
colleague unjustifiably in chemical history. What about adding the
powder to Hg3Sb4O13 to red heat to observe any extra oxidation of
sulphur and carbon, like from the next room? At least I confused
Berthollet with Berzelius rather than Berthelot, so at least I was in
the right century. A pity they had to have such similar names.
Steve.
If you are interested by old alchemia, there's new concepts
running
on cold
fusion and results are excellent. There's a junction between
modern
concepts
and old european alchemia. It depends what you are looking for.
There's some
very good specialist in Italy, experiments are running through
Berthollet's
powder, and experiments are running...
Thanks for the tip about Berthollet's Powder and the details
available
in another message. The amount of gold involved, 0.6g, is
reminiscent
of the amounts produced by one Dr. James Price, in 1782, during his
demonstration experiments in front of the Royal Society. These
ranged
from 6 to 11 grains of gold, produced by the action of Price's 'red
powder' upon heated mercury. Later he transmuted mercury to yield
120
grains of gold as a presentation to George III, who was so impressed
that he ordered a regular gold supply from Price, to help with the
war
effort. As anyone familiar with reports of the amounts of
Philosopher's
Stone created by any one alchemist and the few grams of gold
generated
in the course of a typical transmutation can testify, the king's
expectations were completely unrealistic and led to Price's suicide.
The official account of his demonstrations before the Royal Society
is
available at <http.www.levity.com/alchemy/dr_price.html>.
Incidentally,
wasn't Berthollet a celebrated Swedish chemist in the early 1800's,
which would make him a near contemporary of Price?
Regards, Steve.
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Supposedly the formula of "Red Mercury"
Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron enriched
Mercury which could be used to miniturise nuclear devices.
Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
Steve Shires.
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Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron enriched
Mercury which could be used to miniturise nuclear devices.
Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
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Supposedly the formula of "Red Mercury"
Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron enriched
Mercury which could be used to miniturise nuclear devices.
Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
Steve Shires.
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Dear Steve,

I respect your work very much and especially your perseverance in continuing your research, even if it is not so, we never reach reliable results.

Well, in fact the final product is an amalgamation, but only that I have erased from my mind all the blablabla that exists around the published researches and chemical concepts of the professionals and decided to deviate from the main formula and do it my way. Only this way I could get concrete results, I had to work hard to avoid the rapid decay that started to occur at the beginning of the experiments.

Unfortunately nowadays we cannot clarify with details of how the product is processed for personal safety reasons, but I assure you that it is enough to ignore the contrary information that exists in the scientific environment to be able to process the product.

Regards,
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Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron enriched
Mercury which could be used to miniturise nuclear devices.
Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
Steve Shires.
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The method of doping mercury with antimony is so simple that no one can imagine. The hardest thing is to keep it doped for a long time, which means the decay time is a few minutes.

Today I can enrich it in a balanced way.

An important tip: Forget many lies that you have read under the subject, especially where they claim that you need an environment with Proton radiation, (Reactor) because I assure you that it is not necessary.
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Did this ever exist or was it a post communist hoax ?
One theory came to me via AEC Pelindaba, that it was neutron enriched
Mercury which could be used to miniturise nuclear devices.
Alan Kidger of Thor Chemicals was murdered over his involvement in Red
Mercury.
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The way to approach this problem of verifying the existence and reports surrounding red mercury is the same as the approach to any dubiously verifiable set of circumstances. Look for any authoritative record concerning the amalgam involved and, if none exists, as I am sure none does in this case, look for any such record of the amalgamating compound, Hg2Sb2O7.
The International Chemical Register No. for this is 20720-76-7. If you try to repeat the synthesis of this compound in accordance with Dr. Sleight's report of 1968 in the Journal of Inorganic Chemistry my bet is you'll come to the same conclusion about it as myself. You can produce the red-brown compound he describes with a low stability and X-ray analysis that do not match his specifications. Or you can stabilise it to a light grey compound with high stability (does not even melt below ~1,000 degrees C) which provides an X-ray scan that certainly does match his specifications, right down to the relative intensities of the reflection peaks.
In short, Dr. Sleight appears to have lost HgO after producing the ternary oxide Hg2Sb2O7 and produced Hg3Sb4O13, a combination of the meta- and pyro-antimonate. Although this compound was hypothetical, my X-ray analysis of the oxide expelled from the compound as it was stabilised and quantitative analyses of the initial product, the stabilised residue and lost oxide confirm its existence. I have repeated the entire process 5 times without any deviation in the result. The final compound stains the melting surface of pyrex glass to a ruby-glass effect but, though it adsorbs onto the surface of mercury easily enough, I do not have the equipment to pressurize it into the element and find out if it forms a stable amalgam.
Steve Shires.
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The method of doping mercury with antimony is so simple that no one can imagine. The hardest thing is to keep it doped for a long time, which means the decay time is a few minutes.
Today I can enrich it in a balanced way.
An important tip: Forget many lies that you have read under the subject, especially where they claim that you need an environment with Proton radiation, (Reactor) because I assure you that it is not necessary.
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